Bills sign TE Jacob Hollister

[SCBills]

51 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I absolutely would’ve let Milano walk, cut Addison and Butler and used that money to go hard at Samuel and a good pass rusher like Lawson, Autry, or Hendrickson..... Williams was a priority. I love that he’s back. 

Milanos a good player, but he’s an outside LB who played 30% of the snaps and doesn’t move the needle for the team. In the games the defense struggled last season it was mostly due to the pass rush being non existent and the defensive line being dominated....it’s why the Chiefs offense was playing pitch and catch among other reasons. 
 

Just my two cents. The goals to win the SB.... as of right now I don’t see how they’ve become the best team in the conference but stranger things have happened and all it takes is a Mahomes injury...but I’d rather not have to bank on that. 
 

It’s impossible to make a judgment, imo, until after the draft.  
 

Lawson and Ngakoue are the only pass rushers I wanted (that fit our defense) and i can admit that Lawson isn’t dominant and has already had 2 ACL surgeries.  Ngakoue can’t stay on a team for 5 seconds.   
 

For all we know, Beane could have his eye on a playmaker, pass rusher and big space eater DT in our first 3 rounds.  
 

Hollister is a solid #2 TE.  If we have to count on Knox, so be it.   After Pitts, I don’t know who we could draft that is immediately better.  
 

As far as KC goes.  They’re retooling their OL - we’ll see how that goes.  Next time we see them, Josh will be another year older, and hopefully the defensive gameplan won’t be trash and WRs aren’t all hurt 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

I started Hollister in fantasy once.  

haha— we’ve all Been there! 

[Richard Noggin]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

I absolutely would’ve let Milano walk, cut Addison and Butler and used that money to go hard at Samuel and a good pass rusher like Lawson, Autry, or Hendrickson..... Williams was a priority. I love that he’s back. 

Milanos a good player, but he’s an outside LB who played 30% of the snaps and doesn’t move the needle for the team. In the games the defense struggled last season it was mostly due to the pass rush being non existent and the defensive line being dominated....it’s why the Chiefs offense was playing pitch and catch among other reasons. 
 

Just my two cents. The goals to win the SB.... as of right now I don’t see how they’ve become the best team in the conference but stranger things have happened and all it takes is a Mahomes injury...but I’d rather not have to bank on that. 
 

I admit that I wanted the Bills to approach the offseason just like this: move on from a fan favorite or two in order to sign players who impact the QB more directly (either as protectors or as pass rushers). That seemed to be where the Bills fell short in the playoffs. 

[Turk71]

  I like the fact that Hollister caught 7tds from Allen his senior season at Wyoming, had 32 catches, 515 yds, 16 yards per catch. They should be on the same page pretty quickly. 

  

 

[Buddo]

After looking into it a little, I think this is a decent signing, with the chance to turn out pretty well.

 

From what few highlights I've seen, Hollister is much more of a traditional TE than it seems. He's also got good hands, which is what he uses to catch the football with, rather than letting it come into his body.

 

Imho, he can be a valuable outlet and I would start him ahead of Knox, as he's simply much more reliable catching the football.

 

Definitely offers more than Smith did in the passing game - he actually can run.

 

Familiarity with Allen is also a bonus, especially when it comes to knowing how hard the football comes at you.

 

I can see some potential there with Hollister, in a more traditional TE role, that doesn't necessarily rely on blocking at the LOS. From what I've seen, he does have the abilty to get open underneath, and I feel that was an area where we lacked last season.

 

He isn't going to be a world beater, but I feel he could well become a valuable addition to the offense, both as a short area outlet, and in the Red Zone.

[Mountain Man]

15 hours ago, ngbills said:

Look at the Chiefs roster and salary structures. 

And? The Chiefs have massive roster holes held together by Mahomes.

[BuffaloBill]

16 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I think this guy nails it.  I jumped to the conclusion that he was a kroft replacement but this might be more about improving the running game.  Especially the H-back stuff.  And for the record Hollister is a much better receiver then Smith was.  I've seen him make some great catches over the years.

 

 

 

Agree, the Bills have to improve the run game. There will be at least one or two games where it is a flat out necessity due to weather to have to run the ball.

[Mountain Man]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

Lawson and Ngakoue are the only pass rushers I wanted

Do people still rate Ngakoue? I thought everyone had noticed how bad he was against the run and how you have to build around him to stop your team getting run all over. He was such a terrible fit for the Bills

[Rochesterfan]

8 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I understand what you are saying and I want Beane to make at least one good move to improve the team this year.

That being said they are close in cap next year too.

Spotrac has the league cap at $209M for next year in their figures.

Bills have 39 signed with a Cap Space of $21.3.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2022/

 

Edit:  I forgot that is without Feliciano's contract.

 

The Spotrac figure is just a guess for next year - so again if they project 209 million and the league lops 20 million of the COVID adjust - that would drop it to 189 million - an increase  of 6 million from this year and a number many team will struggle with next year.

 

I think Bean is being smart because the fact is the GMs do not know what the cost is going to be.  If a new COVID variant comes out - fans could be limited again.  The already have 1 COVID adjustment to make - what if it becomes 2.  Beane will have options again next year to adjust CAP space, but the smart teams will watch how much you kick forward until we have a better idea.

 

Again - my belief is Beane will save the option and if he can find a trade or a guy is released that will be a difference maker he will make a move.

 

 

[papazoid]

hollister is a message to philly

 

i say we still get ertz

[Rochesterfan]

8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I absolutely would’ve let Milano walk, cut Addison and Butler and used that money to go hard at Samuel and a good pass rusher like Lawson, Autry, or Hendrickson..... Williams was a priority. I love that he’s back. 

Milanos a good player, but he’s an outside LB who played 30% of the snaps and doesn’t move the needle for the team. In the games the defense struggled last season it was mostly due to the pass rush being non existent and the defensive line being dominated....it’s why the Chiefs offense was playing pitch and catch among other reasons. 
 

Just my two cents. The goals to win the SB.... as of right now I don’t see how they’ve become the best team in the conference but stranger things have happened and all it takes is a Mahomes injury...but I’d rather not have to bank on that. 
 

 

So Milano does not move your needle, but when finally healthy the defense was top 5 DVOA after struggling early.  I think you are wrong - especially in the McDermott defense that features LBs like him.

 

Lawson has consistently underproduced since his rookie splash and even last year had fewer sacks than Addison.  Yes he got a ton of pressure for a very bad defense in which he ignored his responsibilities and just went after the QB.  It is like looking at Phillips numbers in his walk year in Buffalo and assuming you are getting that every year.  Lawson will settle into the Jets defense and be a 13 million dollar 6 sack guy that drive fans insane.

 

Autry again in a walk year put up career numbers and got to 7.5 sacks in an upfield attacking defense with less responsibility that in our defense.  My understanding was the Bills liked him because he was good at the point of attack and not really his pass rushing.  I think he puts up numbers very similar to Addison at a higher cost.  The advantage is he is a bit younger, but he has never matched Addison at his peak.

 

Hendrickson would have been the prize to me - young got better and actually produced on a good defense.  Still some worries as most of his production came in his walk year, but the potential to be better is there.  Cincinnati feels like he is a significant upgrade - which agains worries me about Lawson - and his cost 4 years 60 million would most likely cost you all 3 players you resigned - Milano, Williams, and Mongo.  
 

I take the 3 guys that we know and gave us the discount to go out and sign others over the unknown guy that seemed to feel money was more important that signing with a winner.  
 

The goal is to win the Super Bowl every year and bringing back a 13-3 team with a lot of young guys at several key spots and a HC that has adjusted every year to get better and find ways to get more out of his players - tells me we are in the mix.  The fact that KC lost their entire OL and have only replaced 2 guards (one with a guy that has been out of the league for years) and way overpayed- tells me they did not improve or even stay the same.  So right know - yes I think the Bills have gained significantly on KC and the Chargers have also - so I am going to enjoy the ride and let the team continue to grow - rather than complain in every thread about the same BS.  
 

The Bills are good and plan to be good for the foreseeable future.  Enjoy!

[Patrick Duffy]

36 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

Agree, the Bills have to improve the run game. There will be at least one or two games where it is a flat out necessity due to weather to have to run the ball.

Yup that's right. It will likely be more than 1 or 2 probably where weather alone dictates that. Hope it improves enough for every game to the point where we as fans won't have to stress it when those bad weather games do come up.

Edited March 20, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[YoloinOhio]

SIAP 

from 2019

 

Jacob Hollister, the Seahawks Forgotten Weapon

Very few players played above expectations for the Seahawks in 2019. Tight end Jacob Hollister was one of those few. And yet, he seems to be overlooked heading into the 2020 campaign.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/gm-report/jacob-hollister-the-seahawks-forgotten-weapon

[DJB]

Sure hope this is our Kroft replacement and we are still looking to upgrade the position. 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, DJB said:

Sure hope this is our Kroft replacement and we are still looking to upgrade the position. 

I think it’s the Lee smith replacement 

[CaptnCoke11]

2 hours ago, papazoid said:

hollister is a message to philly

 

i say we still get ertz

With what money?  They can’t even process the contracts for Feliciano and Trubisky without creating some room.  

[Back2Buff]

7 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

With what money?  They can’t even process the contracts for Feliciano and Trubisky without creating some room.  

The bills could create 20 million in one minute. The salary cap isn’t real

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

With what money?  They can’t even process the contracts for Feliciano and Trubisky without creating some room.  

 

Is that what the hold-up is?  But the renegotiation for Matakevich hasn't gone through either.

1 minute ago, Back2Buff said:

The bills could create 20 million in one minute. The salary cap isn’t real

 

Kinda looks like they're gonna need to

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Never was a fan of Hollister.  Think he is a dime a dozen player in league.  Hopefully it was league minimum.

 

I'm impressed ...I guess...that you're sufficient of a fan to have payed such careful attention to a TE playing on another team, especially one who started 2019 on the practice squad and 2020 buried on the depth chart/ST, so as to have a long duration of opinion on him.

 

33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s the Lee smith replacement 

 

Unlike Lee Smith, Hollister can actually run routes and cut and separate and stuff.  He can also one-hand the ball, which I'm not sure whether or not Lee Smith could, but DiMarco couldn't.

[DJB]

48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s the Lee smith replacement 

 

Lee was strictly a Y tight end for the most part. I think Hollister is the better receiver but worse blocker. 

 

Either way I'd still like an upgrade if possible