MPL Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In other News, Water is Still Wet. The real debate here isn't whether paying for ST is a good strategy. The real debate is whether or not water is actually wet or just makes things wet. http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6097
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: Maurice Alexander (yes he’s a real person) vs Wyatt Teller. Game, blouses. Going back 25 years to make a point about the modern NFL >>>> You’re agreeing with a guy that said a 25 year old running back is old. How difficult is it to understand that Taiwan Jones is also a running back. He’s a 3rd string RB and the many, if not most play special teams as well. You just never see him in the backfield because how often do both backs go down in a game? He’s your guy that can get you through a pinch. You’re having a toddler temper tantrum over something so small.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You’re agreeing with a guy that said a 25 year old running back is old. How difficult is it to understand that Taiwan Jones is also a running back. He’s a 3rd string RB and the many, if not most play special teams as well. You just never see him in the backfield because how often do both backs go down in a game? He’s your guy that can get you through a pinch. You’re having a toddler temper tantrum over something so small. He plays special teams but he also gets open in the pass game
BuffaloBill Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In other News, Water is Still Wet. Are you sure?
JMF2006 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. I guess they must be paying Taiwan J directly out of your pocket Look at the Cheatriots they had that gunner Slater
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He plays special teams but he also gets open in the pass game He can. 2
Bill from NYC Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. You must be young. If you were around for Marv Levy you might have (God forbid) stroked out. 1
BillsFan130 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 The chargers say: “Ya special teams is so overrated, who needs to focus on that”.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Are you sure? Well....there is this https://www.instructables.com/Make-Your-Own-Dehydrated-Water/ https://culinarylore.com/food-history:cans-of-bernard-dehydrated-water/ So I guess once again I must Live and Learn 🤷♂️😇 1
Augie Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. WELL...............if it was attention you were seeking, CONGRATULATIONS!!! 🍻 Looks like 3 more roster spots without a punter, kicker or long snapper. 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well....there is this https://www.instructables.com/Make-Your-Own-Dehydrated-Water/ https://culinarylore.com/food-history:cans-of-bernard-dehydrated-water/ So I guess once again I must Live and Learn 🤷♂️😇 That must be much lighter too, if you are hiking or camping. Good to know!!! 1
Don Otreply Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: They need a freaking franchise QB and they do THIS!!! Probably will set the team back 3 years. BTW - who did they sign? On top of this blunder, they traded Sammy Watkins...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: You must be young. If you were around for Marv Levy you might have (God forbid) stroked out. One of the chief differences is that those SB teams were really before widespread free agency............a time when players were really tied to teams for a very long time so it was easier to develop talent from within. I think back then first round picks were on 6-7 year deals. If the team drafted you they weren't going to put you in bubble wrap because you *might* be good on offense or defense like they have to now.........they didn't have to.......you were under control for so long that you had to play special teams. Now, those roster spots are like your farm system.......you really want them more for drafting and developing. It's a choice teams have to make. The Bills dedicate more ST only positions and $ than most.......if not more than any. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 OP, there are legit things to get upset over—this topic just isn’t one of them, sorry. If we get to where we can’t sign premier talent to support Josh that’s one thing, but I’d hardly call this a ST drunken sailor spending spree. 1
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The Bills dedicate more ST only positions and $ than most.......if not more than any. Is there somewhere that I can see the comparison between the Bills and other teams when it comes to spending on ST only players? Again, genuinely asking for a source so I can see how it all breaks down... you’re making a claim... I’m not disputing it... I’m just asking to see the information.
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Is there somewhere that I can see the comparison between the Bills and other teams when it comes to spending on ST only players? Again, genuinely asking for a source so I can see how it all breaks down... you’re making a claim... I’m not disputing it... I’m just asking to see the information. I believe he's referring to Taiwan, Tyler M and Roberts last year. All those guys can play other positions, they are just last on your depth chart.
Beast Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Bills fans and special teams. lol @Beast Do you still have your Moorman jersey?
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I believe he's referring to Taiwan, Tyler M and Roberts last year. All those guys can play other positions, they are just last on your depth chart. Absolutely... I just don’t know where he’s seeing how other teams treat ST and the money spend on ST only spots. He’s making a league wide comparison.
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Absolutely... I just don’t know where he’s seeing how other teams treat ST and the money spend on ST only spots. He’s making a league wide comparison. Yep.
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Can we please stop living 30 years in the past? ”Granted the league was completely different, the rules were completely different, the strategy was completely different and the coaches were even stupider than they were today.” So basically, who cares? schtick
ColoradoBills Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Is there somewhere that I can see the comparison between the Bills and other teams when it comes to spending on ST only players? Again, genuinely asking for a source so I can see how it all breaks down... you’re making a claim... I’m not disputing it... I’m just asking to see the information. The thing is it's not that easy to figure out. Spotrac/OTC have positional breakdowns for ST but that is just P/K/LS. Teams have ST players but they are in different positions. T. Jones for instance is a RB.
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