LabattBlue Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Where is the “I’m scared to sign anyone because of the cap” choice?
Boxcar Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 1:45 AM, IronMaidenBills said: Where do you want to spend the money. Ertz, #2 CB, or DE/LB. Expand We can likely afford all three, depending on who the DE is.
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 2:00 AM, BillsFanForever19 said: You have to pay the piper at some point. Keep in mind we have to re-up Josh and Edmunds soon too. Logic would also dictate that if Beane wanted to free up money to go ham - he would have by now while everyone's being gobbled up. It's possible we make *a* move or two and work some stuff around. Ertz being the most likely IMO. We've spent a fair amount of money already. It's just mostly been our own guys. Not every offseason is going to be crazy exciting. And when you have the type of winning team we have, it usually isn't. That's a good thing btw. But to say "where are we spending the money" - the fact is it's not there atm. Expand Bills should not "re-up" Edmunds unless he has a monster season and takes a huge step forward as a dominant football player.
BarleyNY Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 1:03 PM, Paup 1995MVP said: Bills should not "re-up" Edmunds unless he has a monster season and takes a huge step forward as a dominant football player. Expand IMO it’s worth picking up Edmunds 5th year option to see where he is in two years. He was drafted very young and has dealt with injury. We should give him that vote of confidence and see what happens. For those thinking about extending him consider these points: - No way do you extend him before Allen. Same draft, Allen was the earlier 1st round pick and it’s QB vs MLB. Extending Edmunds before Allen would be a terrible message to send. - 16th overall picks extended by the teams that drafted them prior to becoming FAs get paid very large. We’re talking $15M-$16M AAV for 5 years with 60% guaranteed (in my estimation). So the bar is very high for an extension. - If he is good, but falls short of that level of performance he could still test the market and return at a rate more in line with his performance. 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 Im actually really surprised Ertz is polling as well as he is against a huge need. IMO a DE is more of a need than a TE right now.
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 1:30 PM, BarleyNY said: IMO it’s worth picking up Edmunds 5th year option to see where he is in two years. He was drafted very young and has dealt with injury. We should give him that vote of confidence and see what happens. For those thinking about extending him consider these points: - No way do you extend him before Allen. Same draft, Allen was the earlier 1st round pick and it’s QB vs MLB. Extending Edmunds before Allen would be a terrible message to send. - 16th overall picks extended by the teams that drafted them prior to becoming FAs get paid very large. We’re talking $15M-$16M AAV for 5 years with 60% guaranteed (in my estimation). So the bar is very high for an extension. - If he is good, but falls short of that level of performance he could still test the market and return at a rate more in line with his performance. Expand Reasonable points Barley. What kind of money would we have to pay him if we pick up the 5th year option for 2022? And is that fully guaranteed, so there is no buyers remorse? 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 That trade for Fuller sounds good right about now.
BarleyNY Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 2:59 PM, Paup 1995MVP said: Reasonable points Barley. What kind of money would we have to pay him if we pick up the 5th year option for 2022? And is that fully guaranteed, so there is no buyers remorse? Expand $12.7M which is fully guaranteed at the time it is executed under the new rule from latest CBA that kicks in for 2018 1st rounders. It also fully guarantees any 4th year salary that isn’t already guaranteed. It’s gotta be done by 5/3/21. Here’s some good info: https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections/
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 3:40 PM, BarleyNY said: $12.7M which is fully guaranteed at the time it is executed under the new rule from latest CBA that kicks in for 2018 1st rounders. It also fully guarantees any 4th year salary that isn’t already guaranteed. It’s gotta be done by 5/3/21. Here’s some good info: https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections/ Expand Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting data. If I am the Bills I don't do the 5th year option. If he has a big year, we can try and resign him long term. If he does not have a good year, we let him walk after year 4.
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