thenorthremembers Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yeah they need someone with experience who can teach these guys how to win in the NHL. I don’t see how another inexperienced coach does that, They don’t have experienced players or an experienced front office. As far as Boudreau not being a Stanley cup coach, everyone said the same thing about Barry Trotz, who never made it past the 2nd round before winning the cup with Washington. I think it was more circumstances than Boudreau suddenly forgetting how to coach in the playoffs. He ran into some really good and/or red hot teams. Im preparing myself for another disappointing hire though. I feel like if they wanted one of the veteran coaches available, they probably wouldn’t be naming Don Granato interim coach for the remainder of the season. When Calgary fired their coach they immediately named Darryl Sutter as replacement. We are the only team that needs a coach right now. We have our pick of the litter. If we wait until the offseason we’ll be competing with a bunch more teams. I think they want to wait to bring someone in to make sure the stink of this season doesnt get on them. Had they fired Krueger earlier I think they probably would have tried to bring in another coach to salvage the season, but it's just too far gone now. I think bringing someone into mess right now may just ruin things for that person next year as well. I think if Boudreau wants into the organization that bad his interest will still be there next season. Like you I am expecting something less exciting. One guy to keep an eye on if they dont bring in someone with NHL head coach experience (they should) is Jeff Daniels the Assistant Coach in Carolina. Played with Adams during his career, and coached him for a year as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The whole thing needs to be blown up, players and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nextmanup Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 hours ago, davefan66 said: Team checked out long ago, had to happen. Yes, we need a known entity at coach. Someone who can coach not just on the ice, but off the ice. Someone who can instill a sense of team pride. Seen changes in head coach and quick turn around by that team. Hopefully we get a guy that can do this. Question is, who’s out there to fit the bill? There are 3 great choices out there right now: Claude Julien, Bruce Boudreau, and Gerard Gallant. I think most intelligent Sabres fans would be happy with any of those 3, but Boudreau is probably the most popular choice. Here's the problem: if Boudreau was going to be named next HC, it would have happened today, commensurately with Ralph's firing. They have had plenty of time to iron that out and prepare for this day. No Boudreau (or other big 3 names) today means none of them at all IMO. I expect us to do the wrong thing, and hire a college coach, perhaps. The name to watch is Nate Leaman, current HC at Providence. This group of players needs a competent NHL coach who knows how to win. That's it! We have 3 great choices lined up...and we will hire none of them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: There are 3 great choices out there right now: Claude Julien, Bruce Boudreau, and Gerard Gallant. I think most intelligent Sabres fans would be happy with any of those 3, but Boudreau is probably the most popular choice. Here's the problem: if Boudreau was going to be named next HC, it would have happened today, commensurately with Ralph's firing. They have had plenty of time to iron that out and prepare for this day. No Boudreau (or other big 3 names) today means none of them at all IMO. I expect us to do the wrong thing, and hire a college coach, perhaps. The name to watch is Nate Leaman, current HC at Providence. This group of players needs a competent NHL coach who knows how to win. That's it! We have 3 great choices lined up...and we will hire none of them! Appreciate the info. This is Adams first go around with this, right? Maybe he didn’t have his backup plan set. Maybe happened quicker than the team initially thought. Doubt it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: There are 3 great choices out there right now: Claude Julien, Bruce Boudreau, and Gerard Gallant. I think most intelligent Sabres fans would be happy with any of those 3, but Boudreau is probably the most popular choice. Here's the problem: if Boudreau was going to be named next HC, it would have happened today, commensurately with Ralph's firing. They have had plenty of time to iron that out and prepare for this day. No Boudreau (or other big 3 names) today means none of them at all IMO. I expect us to do the wrong thing, and hire a college coach, perhaps. The name to watch is Nate Leaman, current HC at Providence. This group of players needs a competent NHL coach who knows how to win. That's it! We have 3 great choices lined up...and we will hire none of them! They won’t name a coach until after the season. None of the three mentioned have to be hired immediately and it makes perfect sense that if any of them were contacted previously, that they would choose to wait and have this lost season finish, especially with our best forward and best goalie not likely to come back. Makes no sense to coach players in a series of totally meaningless games, especially when a bunch of them won’t be in future plans. An argument could be made that it would provide a new coach an opportunity to see what he’s got, but that is already blatantly obvious and I suspect Boudreau et al, already have a pretty good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I think they want to wait to bring someone in to make sure the stink of this season doesnt get on them. Had they fired Krueger earlier I think they probably would have tried to bring in another coach to salvage the season, but it's just too far gone now. I think bringing someone into mess right now may just ruin things for that person next year as well. I think if Boudreau wants into the organization that bad his interest will still be there next season. Like you I am expecting something less exciting. One guy to keep an eye on if they dont bring in someone with NHL head coach experience (they should) is Jeff Daniels the Assistant Coach in Carolina. Played with Adams during his career, and coached him for a year as well. It does make sense not to saddle a new coach with this horrible season. I really do want to hold out hope that they hire a proven coach. I just have so little faith left that this team does the right thing. My dream hire is Rod Brind’amor but I don’t see any way he actually leaves carolina. Boudreau is definitely next on my list. I think he’d be a great fit and I think the style of hockey he wants to play would fit well for guys like Eichel and Dahlin. I really wanted Laviolette before he went to Washington. He would’ve been a good fit as well. I’d take Gallant in a heart beat too. Or Julien, but he’d be lower on my list than the other I mentioned. I just worry about waiting until the offseason when a bunch more teams will be looking for coaches, and I feel like they’re almost all more desirable than Buffalo at this point. I also wonder if the Pegulas will be willing to pay big money for another coach right now. I still can’t believe they gave Krueger $4 million per year. They still owe him for at least 1 more year too. I just don’t know how excited I can get about another unproven coach. If we had an experienced veteran core of players I’d feel much differently. But we don’t. We need someone who can teach these guys how to win in the NHL. Edited March 17, 2021 by BillsFan4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 It's no Murray/Whaley pic, but at least Kruger is enjoying his first day off. I'm sure he's relieved to be out of there. Enjoying the day on the Elmwood strip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 It can't get any worse: A no experience GM of the worst team in the NHL seeks new HC. .....well, maybe it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: There are 3 great choices out there right now: Claude Julien, Bruce Boudreau, and Gerard Gallant. I think most intelligent Sabres fans would be happy with any of those 3, but Boudreau is probably the most popular choice. Here's the problem: if Boudreau was going to be named next HC, it would have happened today, commensurately with Ralph's firing. They have had plenty of time to iron that out and prepare for this day. No Boudreau (or other big 3 names) today means none of them at all IMO. I expect us to do the wrong thing, and hire a college coach, perhaps. The name to watch is Nate Leaman, current HC at Providence. This group of players needs a competent NHL coach who knows how to win. That's it! We have 3 great choices lined up...and we will hire none of them! Those three you named would be good choices. If the Pegula's decide on one of them it might be a good idea to hire them ASAP. This season is lost but they would have half the season to evaluate the roster which would help them get a head start on fixing this mess for the 21-22 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 🤔...Good lord, you don't think they'll go the 'former Sabres player as coach' route, do you? * Here's a (bad) thought: Coaching by committee: The staff of WGR's 'Da Inzdigaydorz'. 😳 * How about Donna McDaniel? Edited March 17, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: It can't get any worse: A no experience GM of the worst team in the NHL seeks new HC. .....well, maybe it could. It's like the Texans of the NHL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don't follow hockey. What made him so bad of a HC? Got caught eating his wings with ranch 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, TBBills said: It's like the Texans of the NHL. Geez...you really think the league is ready for Don Cherry as Sabres coach and double secret GM?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I really wanted to get back into hockey this year. By the time I remembered to purchase the nhl package I took a look to see how the Sabres were doing and decided against it. All I read is the Pegulas have made a mess of things, the GM is in over his head and we now handle scouting almost exclusively by video. Sounds like a dumpster fire, or did I miss anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 My plan would be hire Jim Rutherford as team president, get Adams a asst GM and Hire Gallant as coach. Kim has to go and Terry will have to pay to make this work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, I am the egg man said: It can't get any worse: A no experience GM of the worst team in the NHL seeks new HC. .....well, maybe it could. I was just going to say it can most definitely get worse... 😂 and I’m not all that confident it won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Is he like Ted Lasso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Is he like Ted Lasso He loved every minute of further destroying this franchise. Maybe it's for the best... I thought a few times this team hit rock bottom but Krueger showed us what real rock bottom is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 It was inevitable that Kruger got canned. But it's not just the coach and Adams knows that. How many coaches have the Sabres burned through with the core players on this tam? Its about the players. I liked what I read from Adams yesterday about having a one way conversation with the team this morning, about having pride. I hope he walks into the locker room today, and lays into the weak little boys that make up this roster. And I hope he cuts the first one that gives him any lip, or pouts or (like Harrington wrote in his column today about Reinhart) rolls their eyes. Adams knows what it takes to win in the NHL, he knows you have to bring it every day, every shift; it's how he lasted so long in the league. He may not have GM experience but I think he knows what guys show passion for the game, and he'll move the ones out who don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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