GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:16 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: It just seems like it should be illegal right? Why not just add voidable years to every contract? Maybe limit voidable years to 2 years or something. Expand For contract rules to be changed it needs either the owners or the players to want it. I don't see why either would want to make this change.
BarleyNY Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:16 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: It just seems like it should be illegal right? Why not just add voidable years to every contract? Maybe limit voidable years to 2 years or something. Expand They are handy for something like this year where Covid has reduced the salary cap. Just like anything else teams can get into trouble with them if they overuse them.
Big C Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:14 PM, BarleyNY said: Voidable years in contracts are used to delay cap hits. Let’s say you have a player on a 1 year, $12M deal. That’s a $12M cap hit that season. But if your team wants to delay some of that cap hit, they can make it a 5 year deal with 4 years that automatically void. One structure is 5 years with a $10M signing bonus and $2M salaries in every year. Now it’s a 5 year, $20M contract that automatically voids to 1 year, $12M. But the cap hits would be $4M in year one and $8M in year two. Expand yeah no I get that part. I think I’m confused because of the $140million part. But I’m guessing this is the Saints’ GM appeasing Sean Payton without making a real commitment to Taysom.
BarleyNY Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:21 PM, Big C said: yeah no I get that part. I think I’m confused because of the $140million part. But I’m guessing this is the Saints’ GM appeasing Sean Payton without making a real commitment to Taysom. Expand I think it was a joke
Big C Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:21 PM, BarleyNY said: I think it was a joke Expand Could be that too! But that is starting QB money and I can totally see Sean Payton trying to convince the FO that Taysom is their guy. 1
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 Saints are geniuses. They are over the cap by like $100M every year, and still sign all the big free agents. 1
billsfan89 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 All years after year one are voidable. Basically a one year commitment to Hill with 3 one year options. The Saints really have no shame in circumventing the salary cap. On 3/14/2021 at 10:33 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Saints are geniuses. They are over the cap by like $100M every year, and still sign all the big free agents. Expand They basically just keep kicking the can down the road as far as dead money. It is smart and at worst you just bag one year eat a bunch of dead money and rebuild.
ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:33 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Saints are geniuses. They are over the cap by like $100M every year, and still sign all the big free agents. Expand The only signing they have done is a franchise tag. They have lost a bunch of players and are still over the cap. 1
njbuff Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 What the F is Allen going to get now? 600 mill a year. 😂 1
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 9:57 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: This sounds like one of those old poison pill contracts. Bills should do this with Josh Allen before the NFL bans them. Give Josh an 8 year deal that's really a 4 year deal just to spread the cap hits out. Expand The cap space comes due eventually. You can only kick the can so far down the road.
78thealltimegreat Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 9:43 PM, The Jokeman said: And somehow the Saints save $7.5 million this season. https://www.google.com/amp/s/dknation.draftkings.com/platform/amp/2021/3/14/22330575/taysom-hill-contract-extension-voidable-years-the-salary-cap-is-fake-drew-brees-retirement Expand I can imagine the party at the Allen household right now
Virgil Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 I don’t like these kinds of deals. When you blatantly laugh at the process, the process tends to change. I fear this could ruin team’s flexibility to re-work deals 1 1
Mcdermott Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 Like I said a few times, teams know that this cap decrease is one, maybe two year blip. Teams expect the cap to go up, way up in the coming years. $250 million is a number that has been thrown out. Teams are just getting creative and pushing cap hits down the road. 1
The Jokeman Posted March 14, 2021 Author Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:51 PM, Virgil said: I don’t like these kinds of deals. When you blatantly laugh at the process, the process tends to change. I fear this could ruin team’s flexibility to re-work deals Expand I agree and kind of mocks the whole purpose of the cap to begin with. 1
Freddie's Dead Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 There is, of course, only one reaction: 1 3
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 9:51 PM, buffaloboyinATL said: All years voidable. Lol! Expand Seriously. 10% chance he is on the Saints roster in 2022?
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:16 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: It just seems like it should be illegal right? Why not just add voidable years to every contract? Maybe limit voidable years to 2 years or something. Expand every contract is voidable without penalty as long as you don’t have future year guarantees. you are getting hung up on the word and neglecting to think of the concept. dude just signed a 3 year extension essentially and has a signing bonus but not guaranteed salary. On 3/14/2021 at 10:24 PM, Big C said: Could be that too! But that is starting QB money and I can totally see Sean Payton trying to convince the FO that Taysom is their guy. Expand He’s never going to see year 2 of it. it’s him giving some cap flex but telling them the only way he’s there past this season is if he’s an elite starting qb, or he opts to renegotiate. Basically the huge sum gives him control of his next step.
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Worth every penny.... Also on my way to propose, good thing he went to BYU.... should be an easy pitch to take McCaffrey as a second husband On 3/14/2021 at 11:37 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Seriously. 10% chance he is on the Saints roster in 2022? Expand Yes, you are looking at Josh Allen's shiny new backup as well as Singletary/Moss and Knox! On 3/14/2021 at 10:40 PM, HOUSE said: Can I play for the Saints? Expand Do you look as good as Taysom? 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 This is really a 1 year, 12m deal with 4 voidable years to spread the bonus. No way are they going to pay Hill 30+.. Its all smoke and mirrors on this contract to get cap relief.
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