JerseyBills Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So basically he's Tremaine Edmunds? Lol. Tre really came on in the 2nd half of the year and I thought it improved our whole defense. We were top 3 in most major categories in the 2nd half of the season. He ended the season on a bad note but thats a brutal task trying to guard Kelce and not bite on PA . I think Tre will end up reaching his potential, works too hard not to
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Feel bad for Shaq. Imagine moving to Miami then being traded after a year to an abysmal Texans team. Not worried about 'pro-bowl McKinney.' He didn't help an abysmal run and pass defence in Houston last year. Not every pro bowler is must have, hello Trai Turner. Grier should be careful. He doesn't want a reputation of immediately dumping new signings as he has Van Noy and Lawson and maybe Tua? Loyalty and stability is a thing. meh, he shoulda stayed here and won instead of chasing cheddar. I like him, but guys that chase money instead of considering where their value is/what situation gives them the best chance to succeed and win usually end up dealing with situations like this. 4
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Feel bad for Shaq. Imagine moving to Miami then being traded after a year to an abysmal Texans team. Not worried about 'pro-bowl McKinney.' He didn't help an abysmal run and pass defence in Houston last year. Not every pro bowler is must have, hello Trai Turner. Grier should be careful. He doesn't want a reputation of immediately dumping new signings as he has Van Noy and Lawson and maybe Tua? Loyalty and stability is a thing. Shaq shouldn’t have left Buffalo. He’d have a better chance getting a ring if he stayed vs chasing the money. Now he’s going to a ***** team that’s in full rebuild mode 1
frostbitmic Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 Does this mean that Shaq is replacing JJ Watt ? He will not be a popular player with the fans in Houston. 1
ghostwriter Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, whatdrought said: meh, he shoulda stayed here and won instead of chasing cheddar. I like him, but guys that chase money instead of considering where their value is/what situation gives them the best chance to succeed and win usually end up dealing with situations like this. And then they get cut because that team sucks, so they really never end up seeing all the money. 1
FireChans Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Lol. Tre really came on in the 2nd half of the year and I thought it improved our whole defense. We were top 3 in most major categories in the 2nd half of the season. He ended the season on a bad note but thats a brutal task trying to guard Kelce and not bite on PA . I think Tre will end up reaching his potential, works too hard not to Matt Milano got healthy. That was why. That’s why Beane gave him $44M. Jane Edmunds was a negative value player out there without Matty. Edited March 14, 2021 by FireChans 1
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: And then they get cut because that team sucks, so they really never end up seeing all the money. yep. I’m not ever gonna fault a guy for getting the bag he can when he can. But I don’t feel compelled to feel sorry when chasing said bag leads to the player being unhappy/negative career things happening. If I leave a job I love with great coworkers and an environment that helps me be the best version of myself where I’m making 45k a year and I go across town and take a job at 50k where the culture sucks, my job is different and I can’t be as successful, and I’m miserable, I don’t really deserve anyone’s sympathy. 1 1 1
Seoulofstone Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: yep. I’m not ever gonna fault a guy for getting the bag he can when he can. But I don’t feel compelled to feel sorry when chasing said bag leads to the player being unhappy/negative career things happening. If I leave a job I love with great coworkers and an environment that helps me be the best version of myself where I’m making 45k a year and I go across town and take a job at 50k where the culture sucks, my job is different and I can’t be as successful, and I’m miserable, I don’t really deserve anyone’s sympathy. That's fair. The only difference being that Shaq signed a contract with Miami. He's now trapped in that contract for a different team. I know it's the rules of the game but you'd have to feel annoyed if you got 'traded' to another company ... 58 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So basically he's Tremaine Edmunds? Touche. I can be a cracked record when it comes to pro-bowls ... Edited March 14, 2021 by Seoulofstone 1
BillsDude Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DJB said: Where's that guy that said that Beane messed up letting Shaq walk? Rex or Doug, can you please reply to this post about you. Thanks. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow. That didn't last long. But how did that edge rush work out for them in Miami? 4 sacks, 18 QB hits, 1 pass defensed, 32 tackles, and 4 tackles for loss We diss off Mario Addison as inadequate contribution. He had 5 sacks, 8 QB hits, 4 passes defensed, 30 tackles, and 8 tackles for loss. 1
Seoulofstone Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 I like this quote from the Texans forum. "I had forgotten Shaq Lawson was on the Dolphins. I had forgotten that Benadrick McKinney had been to the probowl." Their site thought McKinney was a cut candidate. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Beast said: I wonder if this deal came about while talking about another possible deal? I'm sure they talk about all sorts of deals, but basically Miami needed a LB after dumping Van Nuys and Houston is converting to a 4-3 D and has extra ILB.
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Should've traded him for JJ Watt
SCBills Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Too inconsistent. Doesn't do anything spectacular. I don't see it, but if there's any year to really show what he's got it this year. I think a lot of the angst people (myself included) have towards our linebackers stems from the KC game. Looking back, our coaching was an absolute disgrace in that game. Romo was eviscerating us all game for not chipping Kelce and being physical with him. Tampa comes in two weeks later, and what do you know... hit him every time he released from the LOS.
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 Jesus Texans stop making stupid trades 2
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: That's fair. The only difference being that Shaq signed a contract with Miami. He's now trapped in that contract for a different team. I know it's the rules of the game but you'd have to feel annoyed if you got 'traded' to another company ... Touche. I can be a cracked record when it comes to pro-bowls ... Right, and that’s part of the game. The difference is, if Shaq had stayed (assuming we offered him a deal) at a reasonable price, he would likely have been an important piece of our team this past year and he’d be here still. Part of making a FA decision out to be looking at the team and deciding if they’re going to value you for the duration of the deal. Part of that is about organization structure and consistency - the dolphins haven’t had much of that lately. Plus, you go play for a BB disciple, you get the BB treatment. Ask Kyle Van Noy. Edited March 14, 2021 by whatdrought 2
Rochesterfan Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: I know right. And they signed them with the expectation that they'd be contributing starters for a few years. Not a good look for their GM. Depends - they signed them as the best they could get last year. This year they could improve on both of them - so you move on. If it works their GM did fine - convert an over paid DE into an improved younger LB and have a ton of FA DEs to choose from on the market. Van Noy was brought in to set the attitude and knowledge - you move on once you think that is established.
machine gun kelly Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 This screams of what I have been diametrically opposed that the Texans would be idiots to trade Watson. So I guess I’m wrong, and ok. Not first and certainly not the last. It’s such a sign the Texans are in full rebuild. Shaq was nice here, but it was a smart call for him for his family. These guys at their core want the $, so they set up their future. I never fault a guy for that call as it’s not about sports, winning, it’s about their value so they have 30 years just figuring out their real career post football. Shaq, hopefully you can prove yourself on a bad team, and maybe there is another move in the future. 1
Doc Brown Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 When a player keeps yelling contract year every time he makes a play. DON'T RE-SIGN THAT PLAYER. 1 2
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