Norcalbillsfan Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 I'm not on board with Carson, I'm not really into paying any FA RB unless it's extremely cheap. Keep RBs on rookie deals for cheap. And Henry is probably gonna be way too expensive. I'd like to have him but someone is going to pay him big money and I don't want it to be us.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 No way on Carson. He is not that good and injury prone. He is no better than Moss. If you want another RB just get one in the draft.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 4 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: I think those big runs came mostly from Josh . Devin Singletary (4.6) and Zach Moss (4.3) both averaged more than the league averaged per carry.........and yet the team average was 4.2........so crediting the success to Allen and pinning the failure on the two lead RB's isn't an argument that holds water. I will say this........the blocking was so underwhelming for such a long stretch of the season in the run game that I felt that late in the season Singletary and Moss stopped trusting it. They were hit in the hole by unblocked defenders so regularly that they stopped hitting it as hard. I think we saw that in the finale against the Dolphins when early on I thought the RB's left some yards on the table.....and then when Williams came in he ran with abandon thru those holes and got impressive results. The backs are plenty capable.......the numbers back it up.......they produce and are strong relative to the league in yards after contact. As for replacing them........Leonard Fournette is a much more impressive beast of a RB than Najee Harris and Travis Etienne...........and he's a career 3.9 ypc RB and only averaged 3.8 last year in Tampa. If you don't block it up it doesn't matter if you are a generational talent............and if you do block well then your RB doesn't have to be great to put up huge numbers. 2
billsfan89 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 They don't have the cap dollars to spend on a RB. If they go RB it is in the draft and I think they go RB late in the draft. Hunter Henry might be too far out of their price range. I think if this team can squeeze in a vet TE it is going to be Kyle Rudolph who should come cheaper.
BillsFan1988 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Devin Singletary (4.6) and Zach Moss (4.3) both averaged more than the league averaged per carry.........and yet the team average was 4.2........so crediting the success to Allen and pinning the failure on the two lead RB's isn't an argument that holds water. I will say this........the blocking was so underwhelming for such a long stretch of the season in the run game that I felt that late in the season Singletary and Moss stopped trusting it. They were hit in the hole by unblocked defenders so regularly that they stopped hitting it as hard. I think we saw that in the finale against the Dolphins when early on I thought the RB's left some yards on the table.....and then when Williams came in he ran with abandon thru those holes and got impressive results. The backs are plenty capable.......the numbers back it up.......they produce and are strong relative to the league in yards after contact. As for replacing them........Leonard Fournette is a much more impressive beast of a RB than Najee Harris and Travis Etienne...........and he's a career 3.9 ypc RB and only averaged 3.8 last year in Tampa. If you don't block it up it doesn't matter if you are a generational talent............and if you do block well then your RB doesn't have to be great to put up huge numbers. Im not pinning all the blame on Singletary and Moss. Im saying they are apart of the blame the other is Daboll vanilla running Schemes and yes of course the run blocking which btw we brought back pretty much the same crew so for us to get better now it's gonna have to be part scheme and part development in Moss and Singletary games. Or we can just hit on a late round pk or maybe even give Ant Will a chance he looks to more explosive then those guys too me.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: Im not pinning all the blame on Singletary and Moss. Im saying they are apart of the blame the other is Daboll vanilla running Schemes and yes of course the run blocking which btw we brought back pretty much the same crew so for us to get better now it's gonna have to be part scheme and part development in Moss and Singletary games. Or we can just hit on a late round pk or maybe even give Ant Will a chance he looks to more explosive then those guys too me. Yeah like I said though..........if you don't block well, eventually it will compound when your backs get tentative.......then they leave yards on the table. It really all starts with blocking. Even players with extraordinary skills will not be as successful if they don't trust their blocking. Antonio Williams nice performance was more an example of a guy who hadn't been battered by unblocked defenders all year than anything else, IMO. His college tape was not very impressive. He is not as good as Singletary or Moss but if you block for him and he sees that and believes, then even he is a probably an adequate RB to win games with. Edited March 14, 2021 by BADOLBILZ
Thurman#1 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 14 hours ago, SCBills said: Agree and disagree. We throw a lot, so there will be times the QB is pressured (even with a good OL), but some of our biggest plays in that game don’t happen if Allen isn’t an absolute physical freak. I'm not going to disagree with you that Allen is a freak and that without that they don't make plays. It's correct. But if the DLs get there a half a second earlier, which they do if the OL isn't as good at pass protection as they were, it's a different story.
PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 15 hours ago, MrSarcasm said: I find it funny everyone wants another RB. So let's just say they do sign a RB or draft a RB in the first two rounds, what do you do with Singletary, Moss and Williams? They are not dressing 4 for Game Day and probably not 3 either. I find it funny that your happy with our RB situation
machine gun kelly Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 I’m no on Carson. If we had the $ Jonnu Smith, not Henry. Similar talent, younger and more durable.
Nitro Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Over priced RB who is injury prone? No thanks. Money is tight so you spend wisely. Henry is not the TE the Bills need
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