GunnerBill Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Oh that's right. You had Newsome in the first. Yea had OT at #61. That would have to change. V2 coming post FA.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, njbuff said: They still have to prove they can beat KC. They didn't even come close in 2020. I am excited about the Bills taking that next step, but we shall see. Debbie? Debbie, is that you? 5
foreboding Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, appoo said: Personally I think it's easier to find a starting guard at 30 than finding a starting EDGE rusher. So I would vote to let Feliciano go,, cut Addison, restructure Hughes + Star. Use Kumerow/Duke/Stills as your replacement for Brown on the roster (Gabe Davis is your #2). Use that 10M in cap savings to find a F/A EDGE. Agreed. Maybe this is indeed the plan.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I think what the last few days have shown us is that if Beane didn’t release a pending free agent player a couple of days ago like John Brown and Jefferson, then he is probably trying to resign them. If Beane knew he wasn’t going to be able to keep someone I think he would let them go now so their agent could get to work finding a new gig for them. John Brown and Quinton Jefferson were not pending free agents. They were players under contract for 2021 with a big-ol cap hit. 1 1
Matt_In_NH Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillsCuse said: RT has been a dumpster fire for soooooo long, I wanted him back bad. Good contract for both sides. You mean HAD? Totally agree, he was most important IMO.
78thealltimegreat Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, ngbills said: Everything I have read on Williams was that he could get $7-8M per. Milano's value was impacted by David at only $12.5M. I dont see any discount on either guy. Maybe someone would have paid them, but dont see them getting more than what we paid. You would be incorrect both the Jets and Browns where preparing to make large offers to Milano alone 1
ngbills Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: You would be incorrect both the Jets and Browns where preparing to make large offers to Milano alone Ok. Says who? Source?
st pete gogolak Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 Why do I love this signing? Two words. Jordan Mills.
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, foreboding said: Agreed. Maybe this is indeed the plan. Two problems with @appoo's plan. First, we don't have Kenny Stills under a futures contract like Kumerow and Duke. We'd have to re-sign him. Second, Addison took a paycut to stay. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he's released after Training Camp after everything's said and done (like Murphy should have been). But if he were to be cut before then - they wouldn't have restructured him today.
78thealltimegreat Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, ngbills said: Ok. Says who? Source? The one and only Mary Kay Cabot who is pretty much the Browns stenographer 1
Buddo Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, ngbills said: Ok. Says who? Source? There's stuff about it around here - probably in the Milano signing thread. Tweets, etc. but not necessarily from the most recognised sources.
Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ngbills said: Everything I have read on Williams was that he could get $7-8M per. Milano's value was impacted by David at only $12.5M. I dont see any discount on either guy. Maybe someone would have paid them, but dont see them getting more than what we paid. what have you read about Williams value ? If it was the Spotrac valuation that came out about 2 months ago, Mike Ginnetti walked that back a week ago when he said that he was the best RT in Free Agency and could get around $12m Edited March 12, 2021 by Aussie Joe 1
scuba guy Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yolo are you taking the off-season off The newbies are all betting you to the bunch 1
appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Two problems with @appoo's plan. First, we don't have Kenny Stills under a futures contract like Kumerow and Duke. We'd have to re-sign him. Second, Addison took a paycut to stay. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he's released after Training Camp after everything's said and done (like Murphy should have been). But if he were to be cut before then - they wouldn't have restructured him today. I hadn't realized that about Stills, guess he was an emergency guy if JB couldn't go in the playoffs. As for Addison, when I posted it wasn't announced he had restructured. But that's fine. Still opens a small gap to sign a new EDGE
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 I assume that the cap hit this year is less than 8 million making this a great contract for team building, Beane has me believing.
appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 I wish Curtis Samuels was available for under 5M. That would be ideal. 2
Buddo Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 Terrific news on Williams - and Milano. A shout out also to guys who have restructured etc., to make these moves possible, it speaks a lot to both the quality of the people, and the quality of the current organisation. I wouldn't underestimate the impact that the training facilities have either, so well done also to the Pegulas for ponying up the money for them.
Motorin' Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: what have you read about Williams value ? If it was the Spotrac valuation that came out about 2 months ago, Mike Ginnetti walked that back a week ago when he said that he was the best RT in Free Agency and could get around $12m Sportrac has D. Williams market value at 8.5m per year... One way to look at it is that the Bills often had to overpay to keep or sign free agents. D Williams signed right at his market value. Some team out there would have over paid, but the fact that he chose to stay here right at his value is a good sign. But he didn't take less than his market value. 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Motorin' said: Sportrac has D. Williams market value at 8.5m per year... One way to look at it is that the Bills often had to overpay to keep or sign free agents. D Williams signed right at his market value. Some team out there would have over paid, but the fact that he chose to stay here right at his value is a good sign. But he didn't take less than his market value. Yes ... this was done about two months ago, and Mike Ginnetti who is Spotrac was interviewed by Matt Parino recently and he said he could get $12M ... 2
ngbills Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: what have you read about Williams value ? If it was the Spotrac valuation that came out about 2 months ago, Mike Ginnetti walked that back a week ago when he said that he was the best RT in Free Agency and could get around $12m Most of what I read predicted something like 4 years and 35M. Sportrac had a value of $7.8M per. So looks like the Bills basically paid market. Dont see anything that was predicting $10M+. 5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: The one and only Mary Kay Cabot who is pretty much the Browns stenographer Haha. She has said the Browns are after basically ever free agent. They wanted Watt and then supposedly didnt that much. Then David, then Milano, and also want Durpee, Hendrickson, Lawson, Reddick, Barrett and anyone else you can think of. 1
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