Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 Brandon Beane: Hey Josh, how do you feel about John Brown? Josh Allen: 3 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I don't know, it could have been, "we would like you to take a pay cut," and that was all that was communicated, and the Agent/Brown are now claiming this was not a "heads up." Possibly but Brown has been around a while... sure he knows the score by now...
HappyDays Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 I don't think a restructure or a pay cut was ever on the table. The Bills are trying to get younger at the position, that's all. Brown didn't do enough last season to justify keep him even after recovering from the injury. I'm expecting the Bills to draft another WR in the first 3 rounds. That WR plus Davis will be the #2. I could see Beasley having an increased role this year too.
K-9 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 That’s just frustration talking. Josh Allen has no say and I’d bet he’s sad to see JB leave. Brown never looked the same after coming back from injury last year. He looked gimpy every time I saw him run. I’m not convinced he hasn’t permanently lost a half step, but I wish him all the best, regardless. 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Of course Josh would want him to stay this was a salary cap issue and he wouldn’t take pay cut and got released I think what Brown's comments mean is that they weren't given the option to renegotiate and take a pay cut.
Boxcar Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: 100% ridiculous notion. Brown is in his feelings a bit. Too soon to be doing interviews with those fresh post-cut emotions running. It's a business. He'll get over it. Getting cut from a really good team while you aren't really being overpaid has to sting. It sucks. I'm not really a fan of the direction they've taken to create cap space so far. They still need a John Brown type receiver. 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: That’s just frustration talking. Josh Allen has no say and I’d bet he’s sad to see JB leave. Brown never looked the same after coming back from injury last year. He looked gimpy every time I saw him run. I’m not convinced he hasn’t permanently lost a half step, but I wish him all the best, regardless. Tbf neither did Beasley. Neither of those guys were close to 100% when they returned. Edited March 11, 2021 by Boxcar 1 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Brandon Beane: Hey Josh, how do you feel about John Brown? Josh Allen: C'Mon, Man. Josh loves all his guys. As a raw young QB who just completed his first good year in the league, Josh should not have (and I don't believe would expect) input into player personnel prioritizations.
DefenseWins Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 I don't think a restructure was ever on the table either. 1. Gabe Davis needs to be the #3 WR. You cant be paying John Brown big bucks to sit on the bench. Davis is proof that you can find good young WRs even in the 4th rd. And Diggs, Beasley and Davis are a pretty good 3some to start with.
TwistofFate Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 As much as I liked Brown, this was inevitable. They played really well without him, Davis emerged and his cap hit was too high. Unfortunately, it made him expendable.
Saxum Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Never played for Carolina so he didn’t qualify for a pay cut..... Honestly not sure. Maybe they are targeting someone better and more reliable such as Samuel(at least I can hope/dream). Beane loves his draft picks so perhaps he is thinking of just sliding Davis into his slot. A move I wouldn’t like for a team with SB aspirations in 2021. Where is the reaction icon for a dead horse?
ProcessAccepted Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: 100% ridiculous notion. Brown is in his feelings a bit. Too soon to be doing interviews with those fresh post-cut emotions running. It's a business. He'll get over it. Totally agree. It has to hurt being cut and then being asked about it.. too soon. Smoke is a good guy, solid presence in the locker room and mentor for the new guys. He'll get a job and contribute wherever he ends up. When we went 5-0 without him while at the same time struggling against the run and not getting to the QB. That makes it easy to see where we need to spend our money. I wish JB every success and thanks for all he did for the Bills while he was here. Edited March 11, 2021 by ProcessAccepted 1
Boxcar Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, DefenseWins said: I don't think a restructure was ever on the table either. 1. Gabe Davis needs to be the #3 WR. You cant be paying John Brown big bucks to sit on the bench. Davis is proof that you can find good young WRs even in the 4th rd. And Diggs, Beasley and Davis are a pretty good 3some to start with. I don't think Davis can replace Brown, but I hope I'm wrong. 1
BuffaloMatt Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 He earned 18 million in two years. Missed games but did his job. He needs to get the F over it and shut his mouth.
TBBills Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 I don't really care if Josh Allen had input... That isn't his job.
Saxum Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think what Brown's comments mean is that they weren't given the option to renegotiate and take a pay cut. So his agent is not doing his job initiating the discussion. Got it.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: C'Mon, Man. Josh loves all his guys. As a raw young QB who just completed his first good year in the league, Josh should not have (and I don't believe would expect) input into player personnel prioritizations. I know I just think it's funny John Brown actually implied that maybe Josh Allen had something to do with it. Edited March 11, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: C'Mon, Man. Josh loves all his guys. As a raw young QB who just completed his first good year in the league, Josh should not have (and I don't believe would expect) input into player personnel prioritizations. Josh is obviously just one of the guys in the locker room and buddies with everyone. He is not your typical aloof Brady/Rogers, but this could be a potential downside when these tough decisions get made and the aggrieved party is left wondering why their good buddy Josh didn’t do something..
SCBills Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Getting cut from a really good team while you aren't really being overpaid has to sting. It sucks. I'm not really a fan of the direction they've taken to create cap space so far. They still need a John Brown type receiver. Tbf neither did Beasley. Neither of those guys were close to 100% when they returned. I think they've done a great job so far. With this cap being what it is, you can't have money tied up in a luxury DT and an older Speed WR (especially when you have a young guy primed to step into the #2 role). They re-negotiated Butler's deal and locked up a young/ST linebacker in Andre Smith for below market rate and extended Micah Hyde. No complaints right now.
JerseyBills Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 Davis emerging as a legit WR2 AND I believe they must feel good about Hodgins , they had to make this tough decision 1
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said: So his agent is not doing his job initiating the discussion. Got it. That's a big assumption to make from that statement. Maybe he did reach out and the Bills werent interested in restructuring because they need evry penny of his cap hit back.
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