Chef Jim Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 8:37 PM, BillStime said: Exactly - it has nothing to do with election security. Thanks! You can sugar coat your answer all you want but this "law" screams Jim Crow and targeted towards those who have to wait in extremely long lines just to vote - and you know it. Expand Extremely long lines are exclusive to POC? Explain why you think that is. Did you miss the part about polling places that had extremely long lines are REQUIRED, going forward, to hire more staff? What are your thoughts about that?
BillStime Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 8:28 PM, Chef Jim said: Why default to name calling? Have you read the part of the Bill that talks about drinks**? Would you be ok if the NRA showed up and handed out sandwiches and bottled water to people in line? How about it they gave out t-shirts, hats, $20 bills? Would you be good with that? You do know that is what that part of the Bill states. Also you do know that the Bill states in polling places where wait times exceeded one hour are now REQUIRED to hire more staff? ** (a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, Please explain what is wrong with this. Reduces undue influence of voters in line. Why the hell is this so hard for you all to get. It's not about WATER. It's about influencing votes. Good lord!! So ok. I'm going down to ATL during the midterms. Brining all my Trumpers and NRA and Right to Lifer friends and were handing out all sorts of *****. I'll just point at you guys and say "hey, they told me it was cool." Expand Can you imagine handing money out to prospective voters? Now, who would do that? Trump allies are handing out cash to black voters
B-Man Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 8:37 PM, BillStime said: Exactly - it has nothing to do with election security. Thanks! Expand So my answer about giving compensation, i..e. bribing, on line, that is illegal in all states is NOT about election security ? really? I mean you could try and argue the point like a normal poster, but to hilariously proclaim that it makes your point !! You are sad and lost. Not unlike:
Chef Jim Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 8:42 PM, BillStime said: Can you imagine handing money out to prospective voters? Now, who would do that? Trump allies are handing out cash to black voters Expand Ok so now you're ok with not allowing undue influence to voters in line? Good. This is the only time you've interjected Trump into a conversation not about Trump that is actually a good thing.
BillStime Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) On 4/1/2021 at 8:47 PM, B-Man said: So my answer about giving compensation, i..e. bribing, on line, that is illegal in all states is NOT about election security ? really? I mean you could try and argue the point like a normal poster, but to hilariously proclaim that it makes your point !! You are sad and lost. Not unlike: Expand HAHAHAHAHA - You must love April Fools Day. You're not a normal poster. Edited April 1, 2021 by BillStime
Chef Jim Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 8:47 PM, B-Man said: So my answer about giving compensation, i..e. bribing, on line, that is illegal in all states is NOT about election security ? really? I mean you could try and argue the point like a normal poster, but to hilariously proclaim that it makes your point !! You are sad and lost. Not unlike: Expand I like the idea of using ID Numbers on mail in votes. Much easier to match those than signatures. God this conversation has me thirsty. Where can a poor man get a drink of water around here??
BillStime Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 8:47 PM, B-Man said: So my answer about giving compensation, i..e. bribing, on line, that is illegal in all states is NOT about election security ? really? I mean you could try and argue the point like a normal poster, but to hilariously proclaim that it makes your point !! You are sad and lost. Not unlike: Expand None of the measures outlined in the bill actually improve election security. And frankly, the measure that allows state officials to take over local election boards should make ALL OF US much less secure about the integrity of Georgia's elections. (Funny, neither you nor @Chef Jim would comment on that, why?) This bill is intended to remove election security and pave the way for Republicans in Georgia state government to continue their long tradition of disenfranchisement of voters. That's the only reason why you're turning yourself inside out to defend it.
Chef Jim Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 9:22 PM, BillStime said: None of the measures outlined in the bill actually improve election security. Expand Oh so you've read it all? Then you would have read the parts that Establishing a voter intimidation and illegal activities hotline? Provide that no election superintendents or boards of registrars shall accept private funding? Provide for notice when polling places are relocated Provide sanctions for improperly opening an absentee ballot Provide for poll watcher training Provide for restrictions on the distribution of certain items within close proximity to the polls on election day Provide for duplication panels for defective ballots that cannot be processed by tabulating machines Provide for the deadline for election certification Provide for public notice and observation of preparation of voting equipment Provide for observation of elections and ballot processing and counting Prohibit observing or attempting to observe how a voter marks or has marked his or her ballot or inducing a voter to do so Prohibit the photographing or other recording of ballots and ballot markers But you and yours focus on water. 1 1
BillStime Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 9:47 PM, Chef Jim said: Oh so you've read it all? Then you would have read the parts that Establishing a voter intimidation and illegal activities hotline? Provide that no election superintendents or boards of registrars shall accept private funding? Provide for notice when polling places are relocated Provide sanctions for improperly opening an absentee ballot Provide for poll watcher training Provide for restrictions on the distribution of certain items within close proximity to the polls on election day Provide for duplication panels for defective ballots that cannot be processed by tabulating machines Provide for the deadline for election certification Provide for public notice and observation of preparation of voting equipment Provide for observation of elections and ballot processing and counting Prohibit observing or attempting to observe how a voter marks or has marked his or her ballot or inducing a voter to do so Prohibit the photographing or other recording of ballots and ballot markers But you and yours focus on water. Expand Ah.... you left out the most important parts of the law, Jim - WHY IS THAT? The law removes the ELECTED Secretary of State as head of the state Elections Commission and replaces him/her with an APPOINTEE of the (Republican) legislature. Eliminating a check/balance needed to ensure a democracy. The law also allows the state Elections Commission to take over any jurisdiction's ballot counting. This is aimed at the Democratic strongholds of Fulton and DeKalb Counties. Another check gone. And while we are rewriting laws - why wouldn't they make it a crime to force people to wait in long lines to exercise their right to vote? 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 10:05 PM, BillStime said: Ah.... you left out the most important parts of the law, Jim - WHY IS THAT? The law removes the ELECTED Secretary of State as head of the state Elections Commission and replaces him/her with an APPOINTEE of the (Republican) legislature. Eliminating a check/balance needed to ensure a democracy. The law also allows the state Elections Commission to take over any jurisdiction's ballot counting. This is aimed at the Democratic strongholds of Fulton and DeKalb Counties. Another check gone. And while we are rewriting laws - why wouldn't they make it a crime to force people to wait in long lines to exercise their right to vote? Expand Why would it be so much better for some elected official, who by that very definition is completely partisan, in that role as opposed to an appointee? The US Attorney General isn’t elected. Neither are Supreme Court Justices. Does that make them untrustworthy?
Chef Jim Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 10:05 PM, BillStime said: Ah.... you left out the most important parts of the law, Jim - WHY IS THAT? The law removes the ELECTED Secretary of State as head of the state Elections Commission and replaces him/her with an APPOINTEE of the (Republican) legislature. Eliminating a check/balance needed to ensure a democracy. The law also allows the state Elections Commission to take over any jurisdiction's ballot counting. This is aimed at the Democratic strongholds of Fulton and DeKalb Counties. Another check gone. And while we are rewriting laws - why wouldn't they make it a crime to force people to wait in long lines to exercise their right to vote? Expand 12 definite wins for me 2 questionable wins for you. Only a Bills fan would think they’re winning this argument Who’s forcing anyone to do anything? 😂 Who gets arrested for “forcing” these people to wait in lines? Oh wait wait I know. ....TRUMP!! Oh and the Bill REQUIRES polling places to hire additional staff and if they’ve had wait times of an hour or more. You look thirsty. How about a niiiiice cooool glass of water. 1
reddogblitz Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 12:22 PM, Tiberius said: Ya right! The last election was totally, 100% fair and they still complained. So much so that they are trying to make it harder to vote for minorities. Expand If the last election was totally, 100% fair, why do we need HR 1?
reddogblitz Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 5:28 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Wiat, a fossil fuel tax subsidy for a big corporation is repealed by republicans and democrats are mad about it? I simply don’t understand you political sheep and your parties. Expand It not complicated. If the Elephant team does it, it's bad. If the Donkey team does it, it's good. Unless you're on the Elephant team, then if the Donkey team does it, it's bad. If the Elephant team does it, it's good. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 12:24 AM, reddogblitz said: It not complicated. If the Elephant team does it, it's bad. If the Donkey team does it, it's good. Unless you're on the Elephant team, then if the Donkey team does it, it's bad. If the Elephant team does it, it's good. Expand Absolutely unbelievable isn’t it? And the respective team’s cheerleaders find it impossible to see this. 1
BillStime Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 11:32 PM, SoCal Deek said: Why would it be so much better for some elected official, who by that very definition is completely partisan, in that role as opposed to an appointee? The US Attorney General isn’t elected. Neither are Supreme Court Justices. Does that make them untrustworthy? Expand Partisans in politics? No way. The new Georgia law strips the Secretary of State of power and gives the legislature the right NOT to certify results they don't like. The legislature can also remove a county board if it feels they didn't rule properly on challenges. Why was this put in place? Can you tell me what the issues were in 2020 with Raffensperger - other than the fact he rebuffed Trump, Lindsay and the rest of the GQP to find those 11,000 votes? Election Security... integrity... my a$$. If the bill didn't suppress voting, the GQP wouldn't be backing it. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 1:03 AM, BillStime said: Partisans in politics? No way. The new Georgia law strips the Secretary of State of power and gives the legislature the right NOT to certify results they don't like. The legislature can also remove a county board if it feels they didn't rule properly on challenges. Why was this put in place? Can you tell me what the issues were in 2020 with Raffensperger - other than the fact he rebuffed Trump, Lindsay and the rest of the GQP to find those 11,000 votes? Election Security... integrity... my a$$. If the bill didn't suppress voting, the GQP wouldn't be backing it. Expand You are still buying this is a good guys verses bad guys thing. wish I could drink enough or self deprive sleep enough to believe the world is so simplistic and childish. But as they say, useful idiots are the political elites best friend. On 4/2/2021 at 12:24 AM, reddogblitz said: It not complicated. If the Elephant team does it, it's bad. If the Donkey team does it, it's good. Unless you're on the Elephant team, then if the Donkey team does it, it's bad. If the Elephant team does it, it's good. Expand This is so appropriate here it bears repeating 1
BillStime Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 12:33 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Absolutely unbelievable isn’t it? And the respective team’s cheerleaders find it impossible to see this. Expand Nah, it highlights that the GQP has hit rock bottom. Talk about cancel culture. On 4/2/2021 at 1:21 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You are still buying this is a good guys verses bad guys thing. wish I could drink enough or self deprive sleep enough to believe the world is so simplistic and childish. But as they say, useful idiots are the political elites best friend. This is so appropriate here it bears repeating Expand Yeah, I know Mister Independent. Voter suppression laws don't impact you.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 1:25 AM, BillStime said: Nah, it highlights that the GQP has hit rock bottom. Talk about cancel culture. Yeah, I know Mister Independent. Voter suppression laws don't impact you. Expand Suppression lolol. Tell me more about bottle water again? Jim Crow 2.0. Fear! Racist!!! ID checks?!!? RACIST!!! Useful idiots parroting the line. I need to find your opposition contemporary so they can debate you in fear of MASSIVE FRAUD?! Oh nooo ! Fear !! Undocumented immigrants voting!!! Fear!? ugh I’m embarrassed for the sheep used in the puppet wars... 🐑
BillStime Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 1:34 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Suppression lolol. Tell me more about bottle water again? Jim Crow 2.0. Fear! Racist!!! ID checks?!!? RACIST!!! Useful idiots parroting the line. I need to find your opposition contemporary so they can debate you in fear of MASSIVE FRAUD?! Oh nooo ! Fear !! Undocumented immigrants voting!!! Fear!? ugh I’m embarrassed for the sheep used in the puppet wars... 🐑 Expand Spoken like a true Trumphole.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 1:40 AM, BillStime said: Spoken like a true Trumphole. Expand Aweeeee. You’re such a cute alt lefty bot. Tell me more about how you consider African Americans incapable of getting IDs please? I just want to understand
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