davefan66 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: Not for a second. The problem with Ertz is I want Beane to hold firm and not give up a third for him. 3rd round picks are too important now. Need to develop the first three rounds of picks into at least rotational status for the length of their rookie contracts. Our mid to long term success is dependent upon it. We finally have a roster that we don’t have to depend on 5th rounders to do the job. Problem this year is, we have a handful of guys still out there as UFA and RFA. If we truly are done on FA, gotta hit on a bunch of draft picks to replace. Need a couple CB’s, DE, DT, backup QB to name a few. Wold love to have the first 3 rounds as guys who can develop and not depend on. Cant believe they’d be done signing FA’s.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 9 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: There’s a Curtis Samuel in every draft class this year see Rondale Moore and he won’t cost 34 million dollars either if the Bills chose to go that route I agree that there have been a lot of good WR the past few drafts..........but there was a big drought at the position from 2015-2017........so I'm not going to assume that there will be plenty in "every draft class". The problem with Rondale Moore is he has been injured for the past two years and basically only has a great freshman season in his portfolio. Curtis Samuel is a proven and durable young veteran NFL player.........the Bills are ready to win now............he is outstanding not only out of the backfield or slot(where he could succeed Beasley and bounce back and forth between the backfield to allow more versatility).........but he is also a provenexcellent deep ball receiver. He has developed into an unusual player and he's not just elusive.........he's a legit 4.31 speed guy. There aren't as many of those out there as you may think.
wvbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Whether we trade for Ertz or not, we’ve got to do something at tight end. We have one on the roster that has any significant playing time. Two if you count Tommy Sweeney
BADOLBILZ Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: There's always fast guys available in FA and the draft every year. I'm not going to worry about that. Anyway, the Bills are playing for this year, not 2023, and they are in fact a SB-caliber team. Sanders does more for them this year than Samuel--who they couldn't afford anyway--probably would, and also bear in mind that deep ball/bomb accuracy isn't really Allen's forte. His forte is the 35-air yard throw on a rope to a guy who burns his defender via great route running and gets a window. Diggs is probably the best receiver in the league at doing that, and Sanders is really good at it too. Sanders mirroring Diggs gives them great options, and with Beasley in the mix, they are going to be hard to defend--again. Samuel is not just fast dave..........he was one of the better downfield receivers in the NFL last year. He's not just a juiced up Isaiah McKenzie. He's a RB who converted to WR and is now an outstanding, versatile AND lightning fast WR. I like Sanders but at some point Sanders is gonna' hit the wall. 34 is old for a WR. I already think he's become less impactful than his stats indicate. It would be a shame if it happens in a year when the Bills are considered one of the conference favorites.
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: Not for a second. The problem with Ertz is I want Beane to hold firm and not give up a third for him. 3rd round picks are too important now. Need to develop the first three rounds of picks into at least rotational status for the length of their rookie contracts. Our mid to long term success is dependent upon it. Price is good but a 2nd rounder is high. I've been impressed with him everytime ive watch GB
Einstein's Dog Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, davefan66 said: We finally have a roster that we don’t have to depend on 5th rounders to do the job. Problem this year is, we have a handful of guys still out there as UFA and RFA. If we truly are done on FA, gotta hit on a bunch of draft picks to replace. Need a couple CB’s, DE, DT, backup QB to name a few. Wold love to have the first 3 rounds as guys who can develop and not depend on. Cant believe they’d be done signing FA’s. I hope the Bills are not done in FA too. In particular I'm hoping they get a TE. As many have said it usually takes 2-3 years for a TE to grow into the job, so a rookie work. Rudolph or Ertz would good to me.
thenorthremembers Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm not waiting 3 to 4 years for te to develop, when I need him now... You have a tight end on the roster currently who may be entering that exact window. Otherwise go get Rudolph because Ertz at 31 is not worth anything more than a 4th. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: There's always fast guys available in FA and the draft every year. I'm not going to worry about that. Anyway, the Bills are playing for this year, not 2023, and they are in fact a SB-caliber team. Sanders does more for them this year than Samuel--who they couldn't afford anyway-- Just a comment that as we've seen from various contracts the Bills and others have inked....when there's a will to get 'er done and stay under the cap, there's a way. I don't think Sanders vs Samuel was a cap decision. I think that the Bills specifically wanted a guy with Sanders skillset. I agree that his age makes him a risk.
Locomark Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 13 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: What happens 1st: Eagles trade Ertz or the Stadium has a new name? Maybe we get both “Ertz Rent A TE Stadium”
thenorthremembers Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Locomark said: Maybe we get both “Ertz Rent A TE Stadium” Alls well that ends well 😀
Milanos Milano Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Locomark said: Maybe we get both “Ertz Rent A TE Stadium” Maybe Hertz will agree to let the H dangle off the sign. 1
Teddy KGB Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Lot of Curtis Samuel talk in a Zach Ertz thread. what’s the latest scoop on Ertz ? Edited March 18, 2021 by Teddy KGB
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Lot of Curtis Samuel talk in a Zach Ertz thread. what’s the latest scoop on Ertz ? click on the time stamp will take you there
davefan66 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I hope the Bills are not done in FA too. In particular I'm hoping they get a TE. As many have said it usually takes 2-3 years for a TE to grow into the job, so a rookie work. Rudolph or Ertz would good to me. Need someone now with Lee and Kroft gone. Not interested in drafting and waiting either. Who is out there? Rudolph and Ertz? Probably go with Ertz at the right price. Would like to add some pass rush also. 1
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 So...with Cook to LAC, does that help our odds of Ertz? Doubt LAC will give up a lot now that they have Cook 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Chargers just signed Jared Cook, maybe they are bailing 3
Buffalo03 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I want Rudolph if we can't get Ertz. Why do so many people want Rudolph? He's basically Scott Chandler Just now, YoloinOhio said: Chargers just signed Jared Cook, maybe they are bailing Ian Rapaport on NFL Network just said the Chargers have rescinded their offer for Ertz and are now out. Which is why they signed Cook 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, The Governor said: It really wouldn’t surprise me if they want our 30 or an early 2nd. I believe they really do value him that much. Thanks for the laugh
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Chargers just signed Jared Cook, maybe they are bailing Sounds like it.
Coach Tuesday Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Samuel is not just fast dave..........he was one of the better downfield receivers in the NFL last year. He's not just a juiced up Isaiah McKenzie. He's a RB who converted to WR and is now an outstanding, versatile AND lightning fast WR. I like Sanders but at some point Sanders is gonna' hit the wall. 34 is old for a WR. I already think he's become less impactful than his stats indicate. It would be a shame if it happens in a year when the Bills are considered one of the conference favorites. 1 year deal tells me they're going to continue to address the position long term. 1
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