Governor Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 We basically just need a consistent endzone threat and safety valve for Josh. Ertz is at least that correct? 2
Green Lightning Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: We are in our SB window. No doubts about that I contend. Bills have to do everything they can do to give Josh weapons and protection. The D will need to develop to be good but looking at where we are we won’t be a top 5 defense AND be a top 5 Offense, so we need to focus on one or the other. Since are already a top O we need to maintain and grow that with Depth added and scheme up the D. Focus then on the draft to add a few who can start to fill gaps on D and maybe the line, but also draft people who can grow for years to come. We are built to win by out scoring opponents not stopping opponents. Trying to change that will make us mediocre with the limited cap. You don't have to be a top 5 D, but you can't get bulldozed every play and routinely give up 3rd and 15 because you have squat for a pass rush. Need a 1 tech, pass rusher and CB 2. 1
Paul Costa Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 The Eagles 🦅 were a dumpster fire🔥 on offense last year. Wentz was a hot mess. I’m giving Ertz a pass last year because of the total dysfunction on that side of the ball, that being said I don’t think Ertz comes in and is a game changer. He will be solid at moving the sticks. He will be great against zone. Which is played a lot against us. He would be a welcome addition . I just hope his addition wouldn’t slow down our 10 & 11 personal sets. Or slow down Dawson’s development. 2
SCBills Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Green Lightning said: You don't have to be a top 5 D, but you can't get bulldozed every play and routinely give up 3rd and 15 because you have squat for a pass rush. Need a 1 tech, pass rusher and CB 2. Depending on Ertz, we would have to pull a KC and do some cap gymnastics, but we could really supercharge the defense by signing a pass rusher, drafting a CB2 at 30 and then Slayton from UF. Say it's Clowney, for example.. Hughes - Star - Oliver - Clowney Addison - Slayton - Butler - Epenesa Edmunds - Milano T. Johnson White - Pick 30 Hyde - Poyer
davefan66 Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: You don't have to be a top 5 D, but you can't get bulldozed every play and routinely give up 3rd and 15 because you have squat for a pass rush. Need a 1 tech, pass rusher and CB 2. Believe the return of a star helps the D. Allows the LB’s to focus on their jobs, instead of RB’s getting to the 2nd level. That being said, yes we need better edge rush. Just hope the Bills are not putting that on Epenesa. Need an established edge guy. With a better pass rush, takes pressure of the secondary, although we do need a starting CB opposite White and backup.
stinky finger Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: You don't have to be a top 5 D, but you can't get bulldozed every play and routinely give up 3rd and 15 because you have squat for a pass rush. Need a 1 tech, pass rusher and CB 2. Yep - we need timely stops and get off the field on 3rd and long.
BUFFALOTONE Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 10 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: In summary: He blows Did you see the QB play in Philly last year?
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 Ertz is an upgrade. He would make our offense more multiple. Help attack the middle of the field. Takes some pressure off Knox. He would be a massive get for Buffalo. I dont think it happens.
ganesh Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: We are in our SB window. No doubts about that I contend. Bills have to do everything they can do to give Josh weapons and protection. The D will need to develop to be good but looking at where we are we won’t be a top 5 defense AND be a top 5 Offense, so we need to focus on one or the other. Since are already a top O we need to maintain and grow that with Depth added and scheme up the D. Focus then on the draft to add a few who can start to fill gaps on D and maybe the line, but also draft people who can grow for years to come. We are built to win by out scoring opponents not stopping opponents. Trying to change that will make us mediocre with the limited cap. I don't agree with the assertion that we cannot be a top 5 defense.... We technically have * A all-pro CB * Two well rounded Safeties that don't make mistakes * Two all-star Linebackers * A DT picked in the top 10 in the draft and an all-star DE This core group with some exciting peripheral players definitely has a chance to be a top-5 defense.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, SCBills said: Depending on Ertz, we would have to pull a KC and do some cap gymnastics, but we could really supercharge the defense by signing a pass rusher, drafting a CB2 at 30 and then Slayton from UF. Say it's Clowney, for example.. Hughes - Star - Oliver - Clowney Addison - Slayton - Butler - Epenesa Edmunds - Milano T. Johnson White - Pick 30 Hyde - Poyer Serious question: what do you see in Clowney that says we should pay for him? 1
SCBills Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Serious question: what do you see in Clowney that says we should pay for him? Purely untapped potential - Also, I just don't think he'll get paid that much. I wouldn't break the bank for him, but given our cap situation, he seems like the cheapest - If not, by all means, replace his name with Ingram or someone else. 1
BuffaloRebound Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 I think Clowney in the $6-7m per year range is a risk worth taking. 1 1 1
Frat-Train Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Purely untapped potential - Also, I just don't think he'll get paid that much. I wouldn't break the bank for him, but given our cap situation, he seems like the cheapest - If not, by all means, replace his name with Ingram or someone else. This! Our roster needs just one dynamic addition at DE and we are looking MUCH improved over last year.
r00tabaga Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, SCBills said: Depending on Ertz, we would have to pull a KC and do some cap gymnastics, but we could really supercharge the defense by signing a pass rusher, drafting a CB2 at 30 and then Slayton from UF. Say it's Clowney, for example.. Hughes - Star - Oliver - Clowney Addison - Slayton - Butler - Epenesa Edmunds - Milano T. Johnson White - Pick 30 Hyde - Poyer Phillips?
thenorthremembers Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: The Eagles 🦅 were a dumpster fire🔥 on offense last year. Wentz was a hot mess. I’m giving Ertz a pass last year because of the total dysfunction on that side of the ball, that being said I don’t think Ertz comes in and is a game changer. He will be solid at moving the sticks. He will be great against zone. Which is played a lot against us. He would be a welcome addition . I just hope his addition wouldn’t slow down our 10 & 11 personal sets. Or slow down Dawson’s development. You nailed it here. I am a big Carson Wentz guy, but he looked like he didnt belong in the league last year. A lot of that had to do with his inability to set his feet without getting trucked, but Ertz gets a pass from me for last year.
clayboy54 Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: Purely untapped potential - Also, I just don't think he'll get paid that much. I wouldn't break the bank for him, but given our cap situation, he seems like the cheapest - If not, by all means, replace his name with Ingram or someone else. He's never shown any of the things that the Bills are missing. Clowney is a high-paid Trent Murphy. He is NOT a pass-rusher.
Buffalo03 Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think Clowney in the $6-7m per year range is a risk worth taking. Why are people so obsessed with this guy? He sucks 1
Virgil Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Serious question: what do you see in Clowney that says we should pay for him? Exactly. He’s done nothing the past two years. If we brought him here, I wouldn’t give him anything more than a one year, 5 mil deal that can be cut without penalty
SCBills Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: Phillips? Meh. Yes, he exists. I'd rather we run a rotation without him. 1
BillsCuse Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think Clowney in the $6-7m per year range is a risk worth taking. Agree, I hated the idea last year because he wanted to get paid and I question his work effort. He got a one year prove it deal from the Titans and it didn't pan out (injuries included). If that humbled him and he's willing to take an even lower contract than last year (maybe with incentives) I think it's definitely worth the gamble. I think the team culture McD built would actually motivate him to reach his potential. 1
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