SydneyBillsFan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 So how would Ertz fit with Josh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Process said: Eartz liked this. The dream is dead boys. Eartz to the Texans confirmed. ☹️ The 2 of them were on the Eagles together. Could be he is just happy for a former teammate who is getting paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Process said: Eartz liked this. The dream is dead boys. Eartz to the Texans confirmed. ☹️ Considering Ertz and Grugier-Hill are good friends and former eagles....dream is still alive boys! March 16th....Beanes favorite trade day....Diggs in 2020, night is still young 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: For the last couple of years? Really? Last year he was but not any year previously. 2019 88 catches for 916 yards 2018 116 catches for 1163 yards if 2018 or 2019 were banged up years, I‘lol take it 2019 he had cracked ribs, injured rib cartilage and a lacerated kidney at the end of the season. Missed some games, played in the playoff game but was not effective in that game. Had a hamstring issue before that in 2019. Concussion and hamstring in 2017, rib injury 2016, concussion 2015, groin tear 2015. He didn't miss a lot of time for most of that until this past year, but having watched the majority of his games he has taken a ton of abuse, isn't the biggest TE ever made and is now 30. He was off last year before the ankle injury. He's not a guy I want on a deal of any length. Edited March 17, 2021 by That's No Moon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: WTF was he looking at?? Just a weird play...he waa running with his head turned around looking backwards... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: WTF was he looking at?? Just a weird play...he waa running with his head turned around looking backwards... forgot there was a punt returner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Fake account. Don’t ask how I know Gotcha, did it? Clues for the F5-in: -No blue "verified" checkmark -two different spellings of name Tom Pelissaro and @TomPellisaro -the Bio "Don't Follow Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: So how would Ertz fit with Josh? Elite TE in this offense should get Allen to 4500 plus yards passing. He will open things up more for Diggs and Beasley. He takes pressure off of Knox---he will make Knox better. This will be a big deal. He's still a top 5 TE in this league maybe top 3 still. Kelce Kittle Waller Ertz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: He knows everything I follow Allbright, I was joking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Elite TE in this offense should get Allen to 4500 plus yards passing. He had that this season. Ertz should get him to 5k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Elite TE in this offense should get Allen to 4500 plus yards passing. He will open things up more for Diggs and Beasley. He takes pressure off of Knox---he will make Knox better. This will be a big deal. He's still a top 5 TE in this league maybe top 3 still. Kelce Kittle Waller Ertz a lineup like this of rotating weapons would be scary for every defense in the league: QB - Josh Allen RB - Travis Etienne (Draft) TE - Zach Ertz TE - Dawson Knox WR - Stephon Diggs WR - Cole Beasley WR - Emanuel Sanders WR - Gabriel Davis Edited March 17, 2021 by wppete 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mark92 said: I follow Allbright, I was joking You never know on these parts...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, wppete said: a lineup like this of rotating weapons would be scary for every defense in the league: QB - Josh Allen RB - Travis Etienne (Draft) TE - Zach Ertz TE - Dawson Knox WR - Stephon Diggs WR - Cole Beasley WR - Emanuel Sanders WR - Gabriel Davis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He had that this season. Ertz should get him to 5k. Yea I wanted to say 5000 I was just being practical; 5000 is not supposed to happen if you have a top 5-10 defense and you run for more then 1200 yards with all your RBs combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Elite TE in this offense should get Allen to 4500 plus yards passing. He will open things up more for Diggs and Beasley. He takes pressure off of Knox---he will make Knox better. This will be a big deal. He's still a top 5 TE in this league maybe top 3 still. Kelce Kittle Waller Ertz I’m sorry, but Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry are the best TE’s in the NFL. I read it right here on TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Switch out Harris for Etienne and I'm really happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, wppete said: #BeaneAfterDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I’m sorry, but Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry are the best TE’s in the NFL. I read it right here on TBD. Hey Jonnu Smith does have 1300 yards receiving.......in his 4 year career. By the time Ertz finished his 3rd season at age 25 he was already at 2000 yards. The Titans were just suppressing greatness I guess. Hunter Henty has never played more then 14 games. Only twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Last year before he went on IR in October: 1. 3 catches 18 yards 2. 5 catches 42 yards 3. 7 catches 70 yards in a game that played a full OT and the game that Dallas Goedert also got hurt. 4. 4 catches 9 yards 5. 1 catch 6 yards 6. 4 catches 33 yards He also wasn't the #1 TE to start the season. Dallas Goedert was. Yeah but the offense stunk, and Wentz is terrible and Pederson is an idiot, and they had nobody else to throw the ball to. Here's what journeyman TE Richard Rodgers did in the same putrid offense with Ertz out. 7. 6 for 85 8. 0 for 0 9. 4 for 60 10. 2 for 48 11. 3 for 53 Zach Ertz was an elite tight end. He is not an elite TE anymore. He's better than what we currently have on the team but if you expect to see the Ertz that gained 900 yards on 135 targets in 2019 or the Ertz that gained 1,100 yards on 156 targets in 2018 you're going to be disappointed. First off, he's not going to see anywhere near that number of targets. Diggs had 166 last year, Beasley had 109, Davis was 3rd most with 62. Lets assume that Davis got some targets that would have been Brown's as the 3rd WR and let's make Ertz the 3rd most targeted player on the team with something like 80 targets. His career catch percentage is 67%. His last 3 years have been 74.4%, 65.3% and 50%, respectively, which makes his 3 year average 63.2% That gives him 51 catches. Ertz' career average is 10.8 yards per catch. He has been under that average each of the last three years (10.0, 10.4, 9.3). His most recent 3 year average is 9.9 yards a catch. 51 catches at his career average of 10.8 ypc is 551 yards. 51 catches at his most recent 3 year average of 9.9 ypc is 505 yards. So barring a massive share of Diggs or Beasley's targets going to Ertz you are looking at somewhere between 500 and 550 yards receiving. Yeah but Wentz stunk and Hurts doesn't throw well so he must've gotten a lot of bad balls to see his catch percentage drop so much. Goedert was 70.8% last year. Rodgers was 77.4% Ertz is and always has been a compiler. He's not a game breaking player like Kelce or Kittle or Waller. He just isn't. Now you are going to have the compiler at age 30+. How much is that worth in terms of compensation for the Eagles and money for Ertz? Ertz isn't a top 5 TE in the league anymore. He's not even the best TE on the Eagles. 1 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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