Sundancer Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 This offense is good. If they get him, that’s amazing. If not, it’s ok. Beane needs to save some money for some defensive help. The defense is no better today than they were last season, and they were bad last season. 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 I've seen popes chosen in less time...🤨 1 3
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 12:50 PM, Einstein's Dog said: That was my original thought but now I'm panicking. I think a vet TE1 would be the biggest, easiest way to improve last years squad (which was already good). Ertz is pretty much all I see left (Rudolf/Henry/JSmith/Gronk - all gone). Bad year not to have a 4th. Maybe Beane can figure a way to meet them half way and get this done. There is still competition out there - Colts/Carolina. I'd like to see Beane just compromise and wrap this up quickly. Expand Philly likely wants a 4th, and we are offering one of our 5ths or maybe even a 6th. That is the hold up. LAC were probably offering the same for a player in the last year of his contract who won't be back with that team. Entirely on Philly.... 1
dave mcbride Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:27 PM, Reed83HOF said: Philly likely wants a 4th, and we are offering one of our 5ths or maybe even a 6th. That is the hold up. LAC were probably offering the same for a player in the last year of his contract who won't be back with that team. Entirely on Philly.... Expand We don’t even have a fourth! One thing that COULD happen is the following: The Bills trade from the 30 slot down to, say, the 36th slot on draft night and get a 4th in return. They then use that 4th to swing the trade for Ertz. As Beane said yesterday, you have to be patient in these situations.
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 4:55 AM, Brennan Huff said: I can’t believe I keep coming to this thread expecting to find some real news... Expand Joe Marino said on locked on bills podcast today that Beane is waiting out roseman who will either eventually cave because he’s a bad GM, or ertz will go elsewhere and Beane will say “oh well” and move on because he doesn’t “need” him he’s just a piece of what is a WR-Centric offense 2 1 2
Brennan Huff Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:32 PM, YoloinOhio said: Joe Marino said on locked on bills podcast today that Beane is waiting out roseman who will either eventually cave because he’s a bad GM, or ertz will go elsewhere and Beane will say “oh well” and move on because he doesn’t “need” him he’s just a piece of what is a WR-Centric offense Expand I have to agree with him 100%
Governor Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 So where do we think we are with this? Philly probably started at a 2nd rounder (yes, I know) and Beane was thinking a 5th. Philly has probably come down to a 3rd and Beane a 4th. Is a 3rd rounder worth 8-12 TD’s next year? I’d say so. What 3rd rounder could we draft that would give us that kind of production? None.
DJB Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 I take no issue of moving a 4th for Ertz. I dont love the player but he's an upgrade and look at most 4th round rookie picks.
H2o Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:37 PM, DJB said: I take no issue of moving a 4th for Ertz. I dont love the player but he's an upgrade and look at most 4th round rookie picks. Expand We have no 4th this year. 1 1
Tenhigh Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) On 3/19/2021 at 1:35 PM, The Governor said: So where do we think we are with this? Philly probably started at a 2nd rounder (yes, I know) and Beane was thinking a 5th. Philly has probably come down to a 3rd and Beane a 4th. Is a 3rd rounder worth 8-12 TD’s next year? I’d say so. What 3rd rounder could we draft that would give us that kind of production? None. Expand You also have to add in the fact that that we'll have that 3rd rounder for 4 years at a super cheap rate, while Ertz will be a 1 year rental at a much higher price. And that 8-12 TDs is a bit of a stretch. LIkely, most of the TDs Ertz would score on this offense would have been rushing TDs last year by Josh. I'm not saying I'm against getting him, but a 3rd is pretty high, when you include everything else. Edited March 19, 2021 by Tenhigh 1
Governor Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:38 PM, H2o said: We have no 4th this year. Expand Ah. That is likely the problem. Beane won’t do a 3rd. We aren’t getting him for less than a 3rd. They love the guy too much. They’ll get pelted with batteries if they don’t get fair compensation.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:38 PM, H2o said: We have no 4th this year. Expand The fourth isn't with us?! 😳 1
H2o Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:45 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: The fourth isn't with us?! 😳 Expand Not until May 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:45 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: The fourth isn't with us?! 😳 Expand
DJB Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:38 PM, H2o said: We have no 4th this year. Expand We can't move a 4th next year?
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) On 3/18/2021 at 11:25 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Yeah that’s pretty decent. But not really good. Expand Agree, but man, Kelly, we've been in no man's land for so long I'd take decent, just to get us to the show. Edited March 19, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts 1
Big Turk Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:11 PM, Sundancer said: This offense is good. If they get him, that’s amazing. If not, it’s ok. Beane needs to save some money for some defensive help. The defense is no better today than they were last season, and they were bad last season. Expand They were bad in the first half of the year...much improved and in the top 10 the 2nd half of the year.
H2o Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:50 PM, DJB said: We can't move a 4th next year? Expand I'm sure they would want immediate compensation as well. If we packaged next year's 4th with another pick, say a 5th, they might go for it. It's all up to Beane and I trust whatever he chooses to do. 1
ExWNYer Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 1:50 PM, DJB said: We can't move a 4th next year? Expand That's approximately the value of a 5th this year.
Governor Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 Any news on whether or not Engram from the Giants could be available via trade? 1
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