glazeduck Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 8:52 PM, YoloinOhio said: Safety is a sneaky need. Not much depth at the moment behind Hyde and poyer. Expand I maybe agree? We've not seen much of Jaquan Johnson but he's looked *fine* if not reasonably good in the few stretches that we have seen. I'd love to add depth there, I'm just not sure that's how I'd like to see us use one of our premium picks (Duck homer be damned). Based purely on some of these meetings, it does seem like they maybe closely evaluating Taron Johnson and the nickel position. Another guy I've felt has been good enough so far, but perhaps they're wanting more/something different from it? I will say this, Holland is a TON of fun to have on your team.
Paul Costa Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 Bills have visited with a few safeties this Spring. HVe to believe a safety would be a third day pick unless someone fell or a Buffalo nickel type is taken in round 3
ColoradoBills Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 6:40 PM, DJB said: Perfect fit for our big nickel. Expand Is this term "big nickel" meaning a defender that can cover a pass catching TE? If so I'm all for it.
DJB Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 10:27 PM, ColoradoBills said: Is this term "big nickel" meaning a defender that can cover a pass catching TE? If so I'm all for it. Expand Correct. Mostly used to cover the TE as well as pass catching route from the RB's. Skilled enough to occasionally hang with WR's as well. Its a position that McDermott really loves to use for his D and we are missing that kind of player big time.
ColoradoBills Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 10:31 PM, DJB said: Correct. Mostly used to cover the TE as well as pass catching route from the RB's. Skilled enough to occasionally hang with WR's as well. Its a position that McDermott really loves to use for his D and we are missing that kind of player big time. Expand That is what I thought and I remember talk about McDermott liking that. Another amateur's question. Does this type defense ever change the typical 4 DL alignment on passing downs? Could it be used in a more hybrid 3-4 type situation?
DJB Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 11:04 PM, ColoradoBills said: That is what I thought and I remember talk about McDermott liking that. Another amateur's question. Does this type defense ever change the typical 4 DL alignment on passing downs? Could it be used in a more hybrid 3-4 type situation? Expand A lot of these guys are definitely skilled enough to rush the passer along with 3DL or as a blitzer with what the Bills do on D. The Bills stick to a 4DL alignment pretty much in most situations. 1
Bongo Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Just read through this thread. Good stuff. Learning a lot about different players that I’ve never heard of. Really enjoying it. Thanks for the info, everybody. Please keep adding to it. 2
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Joe Tryon would be a heck of a selection. 1
YoloinOhio Posted April 6, 2021 Author Posted April 6, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 4:52 PM, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Joe Tryon would be a heck of a selection. Expand 2nd round?
glazeduck Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 4:54 PM, YoloinOhio said: 2nd round? Expand If that...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 4:54 PM, YoloinOhio said: 2nd round? Expand I just meant in general, he's a heck of a player. Had he not opted out for the season I think he would have been a first round lock imo. Not sure of his projection this year. It's hard to say with a bunch of these guys opting out.
DJB Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 Its a very deep WR class so we should get some great value by adding one of these guys. I'm just a little surpised at how much we continue to add to the group. But I guess at some point Beasley and Sanders will be replaced.
Buffalo716 Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 10:31 PM, DJB said: Correct. Mostly used to cover the TE as well as pass catching route from the RB's. Skilled enough to occasionally hang with WR's as well. Its a position that McDermott really loves to use for his D and we are missing that kind of player big time. Expand I don't think McDermott has ever used a big nickel more than 20% snaps Saying he really loves to use it for the D might be a little bit of an overstatement, it's just a strategic chess piece And the big Nickel is replacing Taron Johnson who is a really fine slot corner.. it's a specific strategic piece
DJB Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) On 4/7/2021 at 1:44 AM, Buffalo716 said: I don't think McDermott has ever used a big nickel more than 20% snaps Saying he really loves to use it for the D might be a little bit of an overstatement, it's just a strategic chess piece And the big Nickel is replacing Taron Johnson who is a really fine slot corner.. it's a specific strategic piece Expand I dont have the numbers...maybe you do, but perhaps he hasn't used a big nickle with the Bills because we haven't had one? I can't recall who played that part in Carolina either. Edited April 7, 2021 by DJB
Buffalo716 Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) On 4/7/2021 at 1:58 AM, DJB said: I dont have the numbers...maybe you do, but perhaps he hasn't used a big nickle with the Bills because haven't had one? Expand It's a formation that is very dependant on offensive formations It's going 3 Safeties instead of 2 and a Nickel corner... So that big dime safety has to be able to cover slot WRs, be tough in run support, blitz off the edge , play a hook zone, and be fundamentally sound Yea if you had charles woodson you would be golden but the majority of players can't handle the full duties off the role so it's relagated to a small part of the book.. it's not made for 70% of packages Edited April 7, 2021 by Buffalo716 1
BADOLBILZ Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 1:41 AM, DJB said: I'm just a little surpised at how much we continue to add to the group. But I guess at some point Beasley and Sanders will be replaced. Expand The receivers take a beating in this offense.........tons of short passes.......lot's of tacklers coming downhill at them.........it wasn't surprising that they were all pretty beat up come playoff time. They need a lot of receivers.........it's the "fastball" of their offense as McDermott says. 1
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 1:31 AM, YoloinOhio said: Expand Michael Strachan has a teammate from Buffalo’s Riverside HS, Elbert Munn 1
turftoe Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 1:31 AM, YoloinOhio said: Expand Our special teams would be cooking with Stove.
OldTimer1960 Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 5:17 PM, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I just meant in general, he's a heck of a player. Had he not opted out for the season I think he would have been a first round lock imo. Not sure of his projection this year. It's hard to say with a bunch of these guys opting out. Expand I think that might be the assumption, but we don't know if the luster would have come off of Tryon if he had played last year. I suspect that Jayson Oweh would be taken a little higher than he will be had he not played last year and generated 0 sacks.
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