So do a Diggs type deal this year for a DE?

[John from Riverside]

Any thoughts on a player we might be able to throw our 30th pick to for a quality DE that makes a immediate impact for us?

 

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

I would try for Mack. He’s getting up there in age and has a pretty big contract. IIRC there was mutual interest when he was traded to the bears but we didn’t want to trade Hughes.

[costrovs]

1 minute ago, FFadpecr said:

Invest in Offense over Defense. 

 

NFL Defense in Year 2021 and beyond is a mirage - it comes and goes. Do not be fooled by 1 game (the Super Bowl).

 

Your best defense is a great offense. If your offense is staying on the field and scoring at will, your defense just needs to be good enough.

 

The Bills Offense in 2020 was not good enough versus the Chiefs in both games, not even close actually.

 

OFFENSE needs to be the primary focus.

 

So which RB do you want with pick 30?

[smuvtalker]

9 minutes ago, FFadpecr said:

Invest in Offense over Defense. 

 

NFL Defense in Year 2021 and beyond is a mirage - it comes and goes. Do not be fooled by 1 game (the Super Bowl).

 

Your best defense is a great offense. If your offense is staying on the field and scoring at will, your defense just needs to be good enough.

 

The Bills Offense in 2020 was not good enough versus the Chiefs in both games, not even close actually.

 

OFFENSE needs to be the primary focus.

I don't disagree with you that a good defense is a great offense.  During our glory years with our juggernaut offenses, our "bend but don't break" defense wasn't legendary, but we had HOF type talent at every level: Bruce on the line, Biscuit AND Talley at LB, Odomes in the secondary....

 

But time and time again its been PROVEN that in the big show, its a stellar defense that can pave the way to hoist the Lombardi.  I know you said it was only one game last year, but it was THE game!!  Tampa's D shut down one of the most prolific offenses to grace the field!  They made a half a billion dollar quarterback look like a journeyman....

Edited March 2, 2021 by smuvtalker

[BarleyNY]

21 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Any thoughts on a player we might be able to throw our 30th pick to for a quality DE that makes a immediate impact for us?

 

 

Beane did a great job quickly working out a deal for a much needed young, elite WR when Diggs he made it known he was unhappy in Minny.  But those opportunities don’t come around often.  I can’t think of a single young, elite edge defender that could be pried away from his team right now.  Free agency might have some options though. 

[Mr. WEO]

14 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I would try for Mack. He’s getting up there in age and has a pretty big contract. IIRC there was mutual interest when he was traded to the bears but we didn’t want to trade Hughes.

 

 

I'm sure the Bears were thinking this a few years ago.  Thought they were a Mack away from being a SB contender. Didn't work.

[Beast]

46 minutes ago, FFadpecr said:

Invest in Offense over Defense. 

 

NFL Defense in Year 2021 and beyond is a mirage - it comes and goes. Do not be fooled by 1 game (the Super Bowl).

 

Your best defense is a great offense. If your offense is staying on the field and scoring at will, your defense just needs to be good enough.

 

The Bills Offense in 2020 was not good enough versus the Chiefs in both games, not even close actually.

 

OFFENSE needs to be the primary focus.

 

The last three SB's have seen good defensive efforts make a difference. 

 

Defense is still important in this league.

 

Edited March 2, 2021 by Beast

[Thurman#1]

Diggs put an extra $10M on our salary cap and for the future. And he was wildly unusual in how cheap he was. Last year that was not a problem.

 

This year it would be a disaster.

 

 

 

Edited March 2, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin]

For the sake of conversation say we're going all in on D and not O right away, who's best possible option right now?  all im seeing so far in FA are banged up 30+ year olds that would command decent contracts aside from Danielle Hunter which would be huge money.  wait it out? or draft?

[auburnbillsbacker]

11 minutes ago, FFadpecr said:

 

Travis Etienne.

 

"But he's a RB"

 

It's the 30th pick in the draft. I'm ok at that spot with investing in a weapon, not a runner - in the mold of Alvin Kamara. Etienne is much better than CEH btw. Catch-first, run-2nd RB with home run ability in both facets.

 

When the WRs spread the field and clear out room underneath, a simple swing pass to Alvin Kamara 2.0 will result in 15-20 yard 1st downs. This element (dynamic receiving RB who can also keep defenses honest running the ball) is a huge missing piece of the offense.

 

Etienne will also take some runs to the house. Those home run plays in the run game will alter the defense, as well.

 

He's also the perfect fit in a Pass-First Offense. He doesn't waste time in the backfield moving laterally, he just cuts upfield.

I think the Bills would need to trade up to get him.  

[GETTOTHE50]

I rather invest in an OLB that can cover tight ends and hold his own in the run game.

 

[FireChans]

9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I'm sure the Bears were thinking this a few years ago.  Thought they were a Mack away from being a SB contender. Didn't work.

The Bears thought they had a QB.

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, FireChans said:

The Bears thought they had a QB.

 

They thought they had a HC too.  

 

Also, their D has gotten worse since 2018.

[Rocket94]

35 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I would try for Mack. He’s getting up there in age and has a pretty big contract. IIRC there was mutual interest when he was traded to the bears but we didn’t want to trade Hughes.

This would be great! Bring him back to Buffalo!

[stinky finger]

27 minutes ago, FFadpecr said:

 

Travis Etienne.

 

"But he's a RB"

 

It's the 30th pick in the draft. I'm ok at that spot with investing in a weapon, not a runner - in the mold of Alvin Kamara. Etienne is much better than CEH btw. Catch-first, run-2nd RB with home run ability in both facets.

 

When the WRs spread the field and clear out room underneath, a simple swing pass to Alvin Kamara 2.0 will result in 15-20 yard 1st downs. This element (dynamic receiving RB who can also keep defenses honest running the ball) is a huge missing piece of the offense.

 

Etienne will also take some runs to the house. Those home run plays in the run game will alter the defense, as well.

 

He's also the perfect fit in a Pass-First Offense. He doesn't waste time in the backfield moving laterally, he just cuts upfield.

 

My fingers are crossed for K. Toney.

 

Make it happen Beane.

[Niagara Dude]

42 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Any thoughts on a player we might be able to throw our 30th pick to for a quality DE that makes a immediate impact for us?

 

 

Haason Reddick is a free agent OLB from the Cardinals,  only 26  with 13 sacks last season.  Former 13th overall first rounder with elite closing speed,  market value is around 11-12million.  Cardinals may not have money now that they gave JJ around 16 mill

[Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin]

kinda seems like a dude who MAY be trying to hustle for that big contract which im hesitant on these days

 

3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Haason Reddick is a free agent OLB from the Cardinals,  only 26  with 13 sacks last season.  Former 13th overall first rounder with elite closing speed,  market value is around 11-12million.  Cardinals may not have money now that they gave JJ around 16 mill

kinda seems like a dude who MAY be trying to hustle for that big contract which im hesitant on these days

[costrovs]

32 minutes ago, FFadpecr said:

 

Travis Etienne.

 

"But he's a RB"

 

It's the 30th pick in the draft. I'm ok at that spot with investing in a weapon, not a runner - in the mold of Alvin Kamara. Etienne is much better than CEH btw. Catch-first, run-2nd RB with home run ability in both facets.

 

When the WRs spread the field and clear out room underneath, a simple swing pass to Alvin Kamara 2.0 will result in 15-20 yard 1st downs. This element (dynamic receiving RB who can also keep defenses honest running the ball) is a huge missing piece of the offense.

 

Etienne will also take some runs to the house. Those home run plays in the run game will alter the defense, as well.

 

He's also the perfect fit in a Pass-First Offense. He doesn't waste time in the backfield moving laterally, he just cuts upfield.

 

I don't mean to hi-jack this thread, so I'll end it here.

 

I wasn't arguing with you. Just based on your post, I figured you'd rather go offense instead of defense at 30. Specifically, a play-maker. And that only leaves one option, a RB. And for the record, I'd be ecstatic if we got either Etienne, Harris, or Williams at 30. 👍

[Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin]

13 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Haason Reddick is a free agent OLB from the Cardinals,  only 26  with 13 sacks last season.  Former 13th overall first rounder with elite closing speed,  market value is around 11-12million.  Cardinals may not have money now that they gave JJ around 16 mill

update: talked to a buddy of mine whos an AZ fan and yeah this dude is solid and a playmaker.  im into this move

[Southern_Bills]

1 hour ago, FFadpecr said:

Invest in Offense over Defense. 

 

NFL Defense in Year 2021 and beyond is a mirage - it comes and goes. Do not be fooled by 1 game (the Super Bowl).

 

Your best defense is a great offense. If your offense is staying on the field and scoring at will, your defense just needs to be good enough.

 

The Bills Offense in 2020 was not good enough versus the Chiefs in both games, not even close actually.

 

OFFENSE needs to be the primary focus.

 

Tampas Defense steam rolled the whole playoffs. I'm not sure we need a top 3 defense but we definitely need to get more physical. That can be said for both sides of the ball though.