appoo Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Colts are giving up 30M+ in cap space for him, though he has a 24M dead cap out after this upcoming season. That’s actually a lot for a QB who maybe toast
GunnerBill Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Give any qb time and they look really good, but Wentz just went from a horrid o line to an elite one. Early comeback player of the year candidate IMO You still have to be able to read a defense and get the ball out. They were much more of an issue for Wentz than anything else. 2
Nihilarian Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Phillip Rivers was the #10 QB in 2020. 12 games, Wentz was #26 with a completion % 57.4 percentage. 437 attempts, 2437 yards 16 TD, 15 INTs. Somebody will need to be a magician to get Wentz to look like a franchise QB again... Edited February 18, 2021 by Nihilarian
BillsCuse Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Beast said: I think this move tells me the Jets may be set with Sam Darnold because, even though I know more QB's are available, I thought Darnold had Colts written all over him. In fact, I'd rather have Darnold than Wentz. This has nothing to do with Darnold or what the Jets think about him. Reich clearly wanted to reunite with his old QB and doesn't think that he's done yet
MrSarcasm Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, bills6969 said: Wow, philly must’ve not had that many offers for him. Kind of weird too, because it sounded like the Bears were going to trade half of their team for him. The Bears are running out of time to get thei QB. Nagy is toast without an upgrade at QB. I could see Fitzpatrick signing with the Bears...
Weatherman Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Pretty small return for the Eagles. A 2021 3rd a 2022 2nd that could become a first They did take a 25M cap hit on a QB that has looked awful the last 2 years. Honestly I think the Eagles won this trade long term.
GunnerBill Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: I know most will disagree but Colts will surprise a lot of people offensively. Reich knows what he has in Wentz, and he also knows how the get the most out of him. Scary team Wentz is not the same guy Reich coached in 2017. If anyone can do it Frank can, but I think Wentz is too far gone. His mechanics and fundamentals were the worst I saw of anyone who played Quarterback in the NFL last year. They were brutal. I just don't know if that is rescuable. 1
MrSarcasm Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Same. They were two of the worst 5 starters in the league in 2020 but Wentz looks by far the more fundamentally broken to me. He has the equivalent of a golfer with the yips. Maybe a change of scenery and a reunion with Reich can revive him, but honestly, I'm sceptical. Here is one of my bold predictions for next season very early.... by Thanksgiving Wentz is not the starter. Here is mine. Colts go 12-4 next year and win their Division.
The Frankish Reich Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Definitely worth a flyer for the Colts. If he continues to be horrible, there's an out, albeit with a huge dead cap hit, after 2021. There's a decent chance he'll turn it around and will be better than any other realistic option (I'll assume that Watson and Wilson are not realistic). Looking back on his success, I'm starting to think of him in the same category as Kaepernick. Kind of a one-trick pony who was able to make things work, and work very well, until defenses and eroded offensive talent allowed the league to catch up to him. If he has another trick in him I trust Reich to bring it out. There's really no better landing place for a veteran QB given their coaching and O line. Good luck to him, straight up until we meet him in the playoffs.
Chicken Boo Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Wentz is back with the guy who had him leading the league MVP race before injury. Carson is surrounded by talent on both sides of the ball in Indy. Don't be surprised when he turns it around.
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Pretty small return for the Eagles. A 2021 3rd a 2022 2nd that could become a first I’d say that’s pretty good return for a bad QB
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Carson went to the Colts. Carson has gone to the Colts. * 'Wentz' is not good grammar, even if you think it's 'fly'. 🧐 Edited February 18, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 2 1
BuffaloBill Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Worth the risk to land a possible franchise QB. As we know you can swing and miss for decades. It is so nice to be off the QB retread carousel. 1 1 1
Dkollidas Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Beast said: I think this move tells me the Jets may be set with Sam Darnold because, even though I know more QB's are available, I thought Darnold had Colts written all over him. In fact, I'd rather have Darnold than Wentz. I think Wentz was the more logical fit for Indy because of his ties to Reich. Darnold could still end up in Washington, Chicago or even Carolina. He could also end up in Houston but I think DeShaun ultimately ends up in SF or Carolina.
colin Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 reich + wentz = chan + fitz colts lookin kinda scary
Matt_In_NH Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: I think that’s a good fit. I still think he has something left in the tank, and the Colts D is good. And history with Frank Reich..... more young QB talent in the AFC......
4thandGoal Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Thats sad the Eagles couldn't even get the 2 @nds that Indy was reportedly offering weeks ago.,
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Phillip Rivers was the #10 QB in 2020. 12 games, Wentz was #26 with a completion % 57.4 percentage. 437 attempts, 2437 yards 16 TD, 15 INTs. Somebody will need to be a magician to get Wentz to look like a franchise QB again... What was Rivers 2019? Wentz is a solid QB with upside. He's got work to do to be considered a top starting QB again but the potential is there in that situation.
eball Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 So it seems like pretty much everyone thinks the Colts got the better of this deal. Which probably means Wentz will flame out. I’m not sure he’s better than 2020 Rivers. But on the other hand, he’s walking into a comfortable and familiar situation so who knows? Regardless, the Iggles get a 3rd and at least a 2nd for somebody they didn’t want to keep. 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, Beast said: I thought Darnold had Colts written all over him. That was just a residual rash from the drugs prescribed during the mononucleosis.
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