ProcessAccepted Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 Honestly I think people are a little hasty writing off Darnold. I just think playing under Gase is tough for anyone to overcome. I'd hang on to him for another year just to see what he can do. 1 1 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: That's not saying much Yeah, of all the possible QB moves out there, New England landing Mariota is a good thing for the Bills. And why trade for mariota when you can just sign tyrod for cheaper. If thats the route you want to go - basically similar to what you ran this year with cam but with a QB who has the arm to push it down the field and outside the hashes (old tyrod's bread and butter). 1
MJS Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Why don't you think they would? I understand the reasons it might not work out, but they can't really roll it back with Foles/Trubisky IMO. Because I don't see him as an upgrade.
DCOrange Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, MJS said: Because I don't see him as an upgrade. Gotcha. I cannot imagine any way that Chicago agrees with you there lol.
Doc Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, MJS said: It's all plausible. But I do wonder why the Bears would be interested in Wentz. And NE going with a backup caliber QB is fine by me. I think Mariota is one of the better backups in the league, but he is not going to move the needle much for the Patriots, I don't think. I think maybe the Patriots should take their medicine and go full rebuild and maybe draft a guy next year. Maybe getting Mariota helps achieve that, I don't know. That would further tarnish Belicheat's legacy. He needs to add a QB who can at least get the Cheaters back to the playoffs. But short of landing Watson, and even then, that will be a hard task now. 2
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 If this happens, reality is unlikely, this is the best case scenario. None of these makes me think twice about us owning the division and making another run for the AFC championship win! 1
Dkollidas Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 Looks plausible. I see Wentz going to Indy though. And I see Darnold going to Washington. Bears will end up trading from round 2 to late round 1 for Mac Jones.
jkeerie Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 I really don't want the Jets to draft Zach Wilson. I think he's going to be good. Really strong arm and mobile. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, MJS said: It's all plausible. But I do wonder why the Bears would be interested in Wentz. And NE going with a backup caliber QB is fine by me. I think Mariota is one of the better backups in the league, but he is not going to move the needle much for the Patriots, I don't think. I think maybe the Patriots should take their medicine and go full rebuild and maybe draft a guy next year. Maybe getting Mariota helps achieve that, I don't know. Does Bill really want to stick around for a full rebuild and double digit losses that likely entails, further diminishing his “mystique” while developing an unproven draft pick? Not saying he wouldn’t, I just could see him more likely falling into the Bills’ drought trap of middling the QB position with journeymen/bridge QB’s who will heroically march the team to no worse than 7-9 or maybe 8-8?
jlgarsh Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 I don't see Watson wanting to go to Carolina. He has a no trade clause doesn't he?
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 I don’t think Wentz wants to go to the Bears , I think he prefers the Colts. The Bears are in such a bad place in every possible area of a football team. Bears fans really want the McCaskeys to sell the team but if that can’t happen a freak plane crash is the only thing that will save this franchise. The McCaskey family is on record saying they will own the team until the 2nd coming. It makes you thank god that we have the Pegulas as owners. They have embraced and invested in Buffalo and are very passionate about improving both pro teams.
Augie Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Does Bill really want to stick around for a full rebuild and double digit losses that likely entails, further diminishing his “mystique” while developing an unproven draft pick? Not saying he wouldn’t, I just could see him more likely falling into the Bills’ drought trap of middling the QB position with journeymen/bridge QB’s who will heroically march the team to no worse than 7-9 or maybe 8-8? As long as the luster comes off Belichick's reputation, I don’t care how it happens! Karma is a B-word, Billy! Pay the price for decades of cheating and nasty, arrogant behavior! I also pray the shuffling of the QB deck winds up with all the GOOD ones in the NFC!!! . Edited February 17, 2021 by Augie 2 1
MJS Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: Gotcha. I cannot imagine any way that Chicago agrees with you there lol. You might be holding onto the past too much. Wentz has seriously regressed. He threw 16 TD's and 15 INT's last year. Rating of 72.8. Trubisky has played better than that every single year of his career. He threw 16 TD's and only 8 INT's last year. Good for a 93.5 rating. I do think Wentz would probably be marginally better, but no, he is not that much of an upgrade and the Bears would do well to look for someone better. Wentz isn't going to miraculously revive his career. You might as well stick with who you got and draft someone or try to trade for someone better.
Albany,n.y. Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 I don't buy this not NFL ready nonsense that Cowherd is trying to sell. They said that about Josh Allen and I believe that starting as a rookie was very important in his development. I'd rather have a raw rookie learn on the job than sit on the bench. Just look at the teams that tried to keep a rookie on the bench in favor of Tyrod. Both Mayfield & Herbert thrived as rookies when the plan was to keep them on the bench. 1
eball Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 You may as well have titled this thread "QB predictions from a dude I saw at the post office" because they'd have just as much credibility. 1 1
DrDawkinstein Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I don't buy this not NFL ready nonsense that Cowherd is trying to sell. They said that about Josh Allen and I believe that starting as a rookie was very important in his development. I'd rather have a raw rookie learn on the job than sit on the bench. Just look at the teams that tried to keep a rookie on the bench in favor of Tyrod. Both Mayfield & Herbert thrived as rookies when the plan was to keep them on the bench. Worked out for KC and Mahomes tho.
Seventeen Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, MJS said: You might be holding onto the past too much. Wentz has seriously regressed. He threw 16 TD's and 15 INT's last year. Rating of 72.8. Trubisky has played better than that every single year of his career. He threw 16 TD's and only 8 INT's last year. Good for a 93.5 rating. I do think Wentz would probably be marginally better, but no, he is not that much of an upgrade and the Bears would do well to look for someone better. Wentz isn't going to miraculously revive his career. You might as well stick with who you got and draft someone or try to trade for someone better. I wouldn't be so sure about that considering his OL and main offensive weapons weren't available for much of 2020. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2020_injuries.htm 1
Doc Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: I wouldn't be so sure about that considering his OL and main offensive weapons weren't available for much of 2020. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2020_injuries.htm That might have played a part. But the Eagles drafted his replacement prior to the season.
Seventeen Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: That might have played a part. But the Eagles drafted his replacement prior to the season. Not sure they saw Hurts as an immediate replacement but Wentz did himself no favors this past year. I may be in the minority, but I think he's got some good football left in him, especially behind a solid OL.
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