leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I assume you mean the new Bills site. I don't know. Don't spend much time there. Why do you think I do? I don't time either the stock market or the Bills. I gave up on the Bills 6 years ago and am so happy i did . Good to see you're as clueless as ever Genie boy. Stock market “timing”. Geesh. That’s less Gene Frenkle, more... 1
Wacka Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Ben Shaprio I can go on. The Fairness Doctrine prior to 1987 mandated that each radio and TV station give equal time to both sides of the political spectrum. That resulted in stations having to by law give as much time to liberals as they did conservatives. They basically had to present an opposing view either liberal or conservative which made things hard for syndication nationally. It isn't a coincidence that Rush's rise in popularity coincided with the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. Reading comprehension is not your strong point. Edited February 18, 2021 by Wacka computer hiccup
Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Stock market “timing”. Geesh. That’s less Gene Frenkle, more... Quiet down, Lenerd. Nobody's talking to you. 1
billsfan89 Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Wacka said: Reading comprehension is not your strong point. Your initial post said that before Rush talk radio was all liberal just like the media today. When in reality it was mandated by law to be 50/50.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Quiet down, Lenerd. Nobody's talking to you. Classic Frenks. 1
Taraka Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 1. On Rush Limbaugh's passing: Harry Truman supposedly said "it's a damn shame when anyone dies." Fair enough. But Consider this timeline: 1985: Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death" predicts a world where entertainment values wreck civil discourse 1987: Reagan's FCC... 2. . ...kills the Fairness Doctrine and creates the possibility of conservative talk radio 1988: Sacramento radio guy Rush Limbaugh goes national with right-wing talk Now, Limbaugh (as his later soulmate, Glenn Beck) was basically the nightmare predicted in "Amusing Ourselves... 3. ...to Death" -- a smooth entertainer with no real political ideas worth discussing, just a talent for funneling white rage into a 3-hour show. Yet in doing so, he changed U.S. politics forever and set the stage for Trump's American fascism Before "Lock her up!" there was... 4. ...Rush and his attacks on "feminazis." Before America became the world leader in denying climate change, Rush went to war with "tree-hugging" environmentalists Before Trump made "the cruelty is the point" a national catchphrase, Limbaugh ridiculed Michael J. Fox and... 5. ...anyone else he disagreed with As Republican politics devolved from the dog whistles of the Reagan era to the racist, xenophobic air horns of Trump, Rush was there for every step down Even worse, his success launched 1,000 other black suns of right-wing hate, from local... 6. ...radio to the Fox News Channel. He was the first pocket of an air bubble that allowed the masses to breathe the all-day air of white supremacy, and to expand that bubble of unreality to insane conspiracy theories like QAnon It will take decades, if it's even possible, to... 7. ...undo the damage to American's beliefs in fact-based news reporting, in the science around life-or-death issues like climate, COVID-19 and vaccines, in a politics that isn't a holy jihad, that was originally sparked by Rush Limbaugh. On the day of... 8. ...his death, I'm hard-pressed to think of someone in my lifetime with a more powerful negative impact on American society. His passing is a moment to reflect -- on all the work that lies ahead, for good people to reverse his legacy - 30 - @willbunch 2
Wacka Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: Your initial post said that before Rush talk radio was all liberal just like the media today. When in reality it was mandated by law to be 50/50. All the name you mentioned started or got popular after Rush went nationwide. Before Rush, political talk radio, what little there was, was >95% left leaning. Are you young? or were you an adult during the 80s? 1
billsfan89 Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Wacka said: All the name you mentioned started or got popular after Rush went nationwide. Before Rush, political talk radio, what little there was, was >95% left leaning. Are you young? or were you an adult during the 80s? The fairness doctrine which was in effect until 1987 literally mandated an opposing viewpoint for every viewpoint expressed. So the idea that 95% of political talk radio was left leaning literally would have been against the law.
Doc Brown Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: The fairness doctrine which was in effect until 1987 literally mandated an opposing viewpoint for every viewpoint expressed. So the idea that 95% of political talk radio was left leaning literally would have been against the law. There was little enforcement mechanism and radio companies were reluctant to broadcast conservative points of view. It was mostly liberal and frankly boring to listen to. Edited February 19, 2021 by Doc Brown
Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 21 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Classic Frenks. Yer not so bad, Lenerd. 1
Tiberius Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Melania Trump said: My husband knew him Knew? You mean Rush is still dead? Has CNN confirmed this?
Sundancer Posted February 20, 2021 Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 10:43 PM, billsfan89 said: The fairness doctrine which was in effect until 1987 literally mandated an opposing viewpoint for every viewpoint expressed. So the idea that 95% of political talk radio was left leaning literally would have been against the law. You’re maybe mixing the fairness doctrine (stations were supposed to present opposing viewpoints, no enforcement and not in equal proportions of time) with the equal time rule (candidates were to be given equal time). There was never a 50-50 split. Never.
SoTier Posted February 20, 2021 Posted February 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sundancer said: You’re maybe mixing the fairness doctrine (stations were supposed to present opposing viewpoints, no enforcement and not in equal proportions of time) with the equal time rule (candidates were to be given equal time). There was never a 50-50 split. Never. You are correct. Fairness Doctrine The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was honest, equitable, and balanced. The FCC eliminated the policy in 1987 and removed the rule that implemented the policy from the Federal Register in August 2011.[1] The fairness doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented. The demise of this FCC rule has been considered by some to be a contributing factor for the rising level of party polarization in the United States.[2][3] The main agenda for the doctrine was to ensure that viewers were exposed to a diversity of viewpoints. In 1969 the United States Supreme Court, in Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, upheld the FCC's general right to enforce the fairness doctrine where channels were limited. However, the Court did not rule that the FCC was obliged to do so.[4] The courts reasoned that the scarcity of the broadcast spectrum, which limited the opportunity for access to the airwaves, created a need for the doctrine. The fairness doctrine is not the same as the equal-time rule. The fairness doctrine deals with discussion of controversial issues, while the equal-time rule deals only with political candidates. Equal Time Rule The equal-time rule specifies that U.S. radio and television broadcast stations must provide an equivalent opportunity to any opposing political candidates who request it. This means, for example, that if a station gives a given amount of time to a candidate in prime time, it must do the same for another candidate who requests it, at the same price if applicable. This rule originated in §18 of the Radio Act of 1927; it was later superseded by the Communications Act of 1934. A related provision, in §315(b), requires that broadcasters offer time to candidates at the same rate as their "most favored advertiser". The equal-time rule was created because the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) was concerned that broadcast stations could easily manipulate the outcome of elections by presenting just one point of view and excluding other candidates. There are four exceptions to the equal-time rule. If the airing was within a documentary, bona fide news interview, scheduled newscast, or an on-the-spot news event, the equal-time rule does not apply. Since 1983, political debates not hosted by the media station are considered "news events," and as a result, they are not subject to the rule. Consequently, these debates may include only major-party candidates without having to offer air time to minor-party or independent candidates. Talk shows and other regular news programming from syndicators, such as Entertainment Tonight, are also declared exempt from the rule by the FCC on a case-by-case basis. The equal-time rule was temporarily suspended by Congress in 1960 to permit the Kennedy-Nixon debates to take place.
US Egg Posted May 9, 2021 Posted May 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Tiberius said: It’s like no one even cares he died So has law enforcement. Hope you enjoyed it.
Chef Jim Posted May 9, 2021 Posted May 9, 2021 22 hours ago, Tiberius said: By, See ya Is this kind of like By George?
B-Man Posted May 9, 2021 Posted May 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Odd thread to bring back Not really. Posters filled with ugly thoughts, like Tiberius, do it far too often.
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