BillStime Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Beach said: sorry facts bore you, maybe you deal in feelings too much Yea I just think you’re full of .... 1
B-Man Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Hey! That's my line! (Put a quarter in the jar please.) Like he has a quarter. The actual "disturbance" on January 6, 2021, took place over a period of four hours, after a peaceful rally by President Donald Trump. That commission, being spun as a "bipartisan" effort to learn what "really happened" in the Capitol that fateful day, is a Democratic scheme to have the left's version of events on Jan. 6 enshrined as the official history of the United States. And what is the left's version? It is that the forced entry and four-hour occupation of the Capitol by hundreds of Trumpists was "an attempted coup d'etat," an "armed insurrection," an act of "domestic terrorism," the "worst attack on the Capitol since the British burned it down in the War of 1812" -- and a "threat to our democracy" unrivaled since the Civil War. Moreover, those who shouted, "Hang Mike Pence!" were out to kill the vice president to prevent his doing his duty and overseeing the count of the electoral votes that would make Joe Biden president. And the instigation and inspiration for the assault was Donald Trump's two months of promoting the "Big Lie" that the presidential election had been "rigged" and "stolen," as was his rally speech on the Mall that day that called on his followers to march on the Capitol. This is the party line the establishment wants written into the record as the official version of events that day. But is that the truth, or is that a painted-up version of the truth? While the mob that breached the Capitol in the afternoon of Jan. 6 was no "normal tourist visit," as one GOP congressman has suggested, nor was it an attempted coup or an armed insurrection. No statue in the Capitol was pulled down, as would have been the case had antifa or BLM invaded the building. No painting was desecrated. No act of arson was committed. No gun was drawn, or brandished, or fired by Proud Boys or Oath Keepers or Trumpists within the building. The lone victim of gunfire in the Capitol that day was an Air Force veteran with a decade of service, Ashli Babbitt, who was shot in the neck by a Capitol cop from the other side of a closed door to the speaker's chamber. Babbitt was engaged in an unlawful act, but nothing she was trying to do justifies her being shot to death. Four months later, we still do not know the identity of the cop who killed her. This is not to excuse what went on during that invasion of the Capitol, which was a shameful disgrace. Cops were assaulted and injured as the crowd smashed its way in. Windows were shattered. Offices, including the speaker's, were ransacked. Crimes were committed. But the people who should sort this out and allocate blame where it belongs are police and FBI investigators and U.S. and D.C. prosecutors, not political partisans in the warring parties of a polarized nation. And this has since been a recurring theme of the left. Again, this not to excuse what took place on Jan. 6. But if it was an insurrection, an act of sedition, an attempted coup, an act of domestic terrorism, the conspirators should be charged in court, for each of these is a specific crime. And if anyone plotted to kill Mike Pence, then they should be charged with that and put on trial. But it would be folly for the GOP to cooperate in a Democratic scheme to indict the GOP and Trump presidency in the court of public opinion for abetting something close to treason, which did not happen. The Jan. 6 national commission idea, understandably supported by every congressional Democrat, belongs in the dumpster. https://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2021/05/21/did-the-gop-just-dodge-a-bullet-n2589798
Beach Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 during the march, i heard someone say "lets drag romney out by his ear", i guess thats where the evil plot started? 1
B-Man Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 😎 And this says it all about the desire for an " impartial commission" A quick lie and then back to the ice cream.
716er Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) What is the greater assault on the capitol since the Civil War that you infer, @B-Man ? Edited May 27, 2021 by 716er
Big Blitz Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, 716er said: What is the greater assault on the capitol since the Civil War that you infer, @B-Man ? The CCP/DNC 2020 Coup
B-Man Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/history-violent-attacks-capitol-180976704/ EASILY worse than 1/6 A number of “lone wolf” attackers have also thwarted Capitol security: in 1835, Richard Lawrence attempted to assassinate President Andrew Jackson as he exited the building’s east portico. In 1915, a former Harvard professor successfully exploded three sticks of dynamite in the Senate Reception room, and an armed assailant in 1998 shot and killed two Capitol police officers. 1954: Puerto Rican nationalists open fire On the morning of March 1, 1954, Lolita Lebrón, Rafael Cancel Miranda, Andres Figueroa Cordero and Irving Flores Rodriguez boarded a train from New York City to Washington, D.C. With little to no security measures in place at the Capitol, the group walked into the building with concealed handguns and entered the gallery overlooking the House floor, where Congress was in session Around 2:30 p.m., Lebrón shouted her support for Puerto Rican independence, and the group shot indiscriminately at lawmakers from the gallery. They managed to wound five Congressmen before being overtaken by visitors and police officers, per a House of Representatives oral history of the event. “Bullets whistled through the chamber in the wildest scene in the entire history of Congress,” Speaker Joseph W. Martin, who was presiding that day, would later recall. According to the Office of the Historian of the House of Representatives, the police had sealed off the Capitol within minutes of the shooting and conducted a thorough search of the grounds until they captured Rodriguez, who had narrowly managed to slip away in the mayhem. The four attackers were tried and sentenced to federal prison with sentences ranging from 16 to 75 years. They remained imprisoned until President Jimmy Carter, responding to international pressure, granted the shooters clemency in 1979. 1983: Far-left extremists bomb the Senate Chamber The resulting damage from the November 7, 1983, bombing outside of the Chamber of the United States Senate (Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons) Leftist groups had attacked the Capitol directly before: In March 1971, for instance, members of the extremist group Weather Underground set off a bomb in a bathroom on the Senate side of the Capitol, harming no one, reports Brockwell for the Post. But the most serious terrorist attack took place a decade later, when a group of women split from the group to form the May 19th (M19) Communist Organization. Just before 11 p.m. on November 7, 1983, a member called the Capitol switchboard to announce that a bomb was about to explode. Minutes later, M19 detonated a bomb in the Capitol’s north wing, blowing a hole through a wall and knocking the Senate majority leader’s office door off its hinges. Luckily, the area was already deserted and nobody was harmed, but the attack resulted in $250,000 worth of damage and shredded a portrait of Daniel Webster, per the U.S. Senate. Members of M19—named for civil rights icon Malcolm X and Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh—coordinated the attack to protest U.S. military involvement in Grenada and Lebanon. Broadly, the group argued that violence was a necessary ingredient in the fight for “revolutionary anti-imperialism,” and its members would go on to bomb other high-profile buildings such as an FBI office. Some of the women involved were later arrested and charged with lengthy sentences, Brockwell writes for the Post. Edited May 27, 2021 by B-Man 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 28, 2021 Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Big Blitz said: The CCP/DNC 2020 Coup Nate silver comes off as an absolute buffoon with any comments on the origin of corona. To put the odds at anywhere near 50/50 ignores two large facts- this lab has been cited for problems prior to this event and the Chinese will lie to cover themselves. Once you add in those two facts the chances of it being not from the lab drop to a small amount. Silver run numbers well but he can't account for the unknown and that is exactly what he trying to quantify.
Doc Posted May 28, 2021 Posted May 28, 2021 The odds that a virus just happened to originate in a wet market in the same city where there is a BSL-4 lab are (and have been from the start) astronomical. 2
BillStime Posted May 28, 2021 Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: The odds that a virus just happened to originate in a wet market in the same city where there is a BSL-4 lab are (and have been from the start) astronomical. 1 1
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2021 Author Posted May 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: January 6th was about racism? 😂😂😂😂 The Democratic Party is the multi racial party, so ya, the GQP hates that it is winning ' You are unaware of the demographic shift in the country. You are really in the dark.
B-Man Posted May 28, 2021 Posted May 28, 2021 Poor woman continues to be used by the left. They will drop her when they get what they want.
Tiberius Posted May 28, 2021 Author Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Poor woman continues to grieve the loss of her son killed by the Trump mob Fixed that for you
B-Man Posted May 28, 2021 Posted May 28, 2021 Despite Joe Manchin’s best efforts at being persuasive and the Democrat’s enlistment of grieving family members, the Senate vote on creating a commission to study the causes of the January 6th Capitol Hill riot have been “put on hold.” The vote had already been pushed back until today, but now it’s not even on the calendar. You don’t need to be a swamp insider to read into this news. Chuck Schumer has whipped the votes and they aren’t even close to 60. And this wasn’t even a vote on creating the commission. It was just a vote on opening the measure up for discussion. This isn’t a budget measure, so they can’t threaten to shove it through via reconciliation and that means that the filibuster will essentially kill it. (Associated Press) The January 6 riot was a criminal act. Granted, it was a big criminal act involving hundreds of people, but there isn’t much of a mystery behind it. There are already multiple criminal investigations ongoing to sort the matter out and literally hundreds of people have already been arrested and charged, with more still to come. (A job made far easier by all of the idiots who posted videos of themselves rioting on social media.) I suppose a commission could look into the online communications between those planning the riot, but law enforcement is already doing that as well. If Congress wanted to ask the Justice Department to prepare a final report on the prosecution efforts and what was discovered, that would be appropriate. But if we turn this over to the legislature, the Democrats will try to make it all about Trump (despite the fact his speech on January 6th included a statement about the assembled protesters going to peacefully raise their voices at the Capitol) and not the people who actually committed the crimes. An actual investigatory commission would be fine, as I already said. But what we don’t need in the middle of the various debacles we’re currently dealing with is yet another political circus. And it’s just hard to see how this commission would turn out to be anything other than that. https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/05/28/the-jan-6-riot-commission-is-basically-toast-n393097 We are entering a period of political persecution, all premised on the lie that “fascist, white supremacist, terrorist insurrectionists” attempted a “coup” on January 6—a lie constructed using words that no longer have an agreed-upon meaning. It can only end badly. 1
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