Orlando Buffalo Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, yall said: So is your assertion that the FBI knowingly allowed it to happen? I am not asserting it, I am stating it is unfortunately believable due to their political activities. I am curious why do you think they were so ill prepared for a well publicized event with known bad actors present? Epps, whether fed or not, stated on camera he planned to enter the capitol on January 6th.
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Do you still believe in Santa? Sure. He'll deliver you a lump of coal. Again.
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, yall said: So is your assertion that the FBI knowingly allowed it to happen? Allowed it to happen? I believe the truth will come out that various agency assets present on 1/6 made it happen.
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Allowed it to happen? I believe the truth will come out that various agency assets present on 1/6 made it happen. At the very least, it was inexcusable incompetence in not having anywhere close to enough security around the Capitol when they had advanced warning of the rally and they knew people would be upset. This wasn't some "spontaneous protest over an internet video [made and posted months earlier]." And my minimum point with Epps is that all it takes is for one person to plant an idea, incite a crowd and then facilitate what he's advocating. And he doesn't necessarily have to be working with someone/some group (and again, if Trump and/or any Repub had told him to break into the Capitol, we would have known by now). Edited October 31, 2021 by Doc
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Doc said: At the very least, it was inexcusable incompetence in not having anywhere close to enough security around the Capitol when they had advanced warning of the rally and they knew people would be upset. This wasn't some "spontaneous protest over an internet video [made and posted months earlier]." And my minimum point with Epps is that all it takes is for one person to plant an idea, incite a crowd and then facilitate what he's advocating. And he doesn't necessarily have to be working with someone/some group (and again, if Trump and/or any Repub had told him to break into the Capitol, we would have known by now). I suggest at this point "The Committee" is less interested in the truth than they are in keeping the story front-and-center for as long as possible. What does anyone expect from a group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectively? 1
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I suggest at this point "The Committee" is less interested in the truth than they are in keeping the story front-and-center for as long as possible. What does anyone expect from a group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectively? And why is that?
Doc Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 8 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I suggest at this point "The Committee" is less interested in the truth than they are in keeping the story front-and-center for as long as possible. What does anyone expect from a group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectively? No need to suggest: that's exactly what they're doing. Again there are whole departments full of individuals whose job 24/7/52 is to investigate this stuff...and they've come up empty. A committee full of idiots who have staffers do their work isn't going to find *****. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 7 hours ago, BillStime said: And why is that? See 2nd sentence: A group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity.
B-Man Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: See 2nd sentence: A group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. Oh dear, you don't think that he actually read your reply, before he commented, do you ? "An 'insurrection,' as the dictionary will tell you, is a violent uprising against a government or other established authority." "Unlike the violent riots that swept the country in the summer of 2020—riots that caused some $2 billion in property damage and claimed more than 20 lives—the January 6 protest at the Capitol lasted a few hours, caused minimal damage, and the only person directly killed was an unarmed female Trump supporter who was shot by a Capitol Hill Police officer. It was, as Tucker Carlson said shortly after the event, a political protest that 'got out of hand.'" Writes Roger Kimball in "The January 6 Insurrection Hoax" (Real Clear Politics). https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/10/31/the_january_6_insurrection_hoax_146663.html . Edited November 1, 2021 by B-Man 1
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: See 2nd sentence: A group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. So nothing nefarious happened? And if something nefarious happened the select committee isn’t bipartisan enough for you to be legit? Edited November 1, 2021 by BillStime
B-Man Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. All-Pro's point is proved.
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. All-Pro's point is proved. Please tell us what credibility Trump has?
BillStime Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 Ohhh - now why would Lindsey want the police to shoot those “unarmed” tourists?
Doc Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 11 hours ago, BillStime said: Ohhh - now why would Lindsey want the police to shoot those “unarmed” tourists? Obviously fear of what could happen. But didn't.
BillStime Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Obviously fear of what could happen. But didn't. How many people got hurt and died that day?
Doc Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, BillStime said: How many people got hurt and died that day? Several got hurt. One was killed in cold blood by a cop.
BillStime Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Several got hurt. One was killed in cold blood by a cop. So how many people at the Capitol that day didn’t make it home alive?
Beach Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: So how many people at the Capitol that day didn’t make it home alive? is this one of those math problems that i didnt read correctly?
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