Big Blitz Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, BillStime said: What happened at the Willard @Big Blitz?
B-Man Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 Oh, I see the media calling it a "riot." more and more........insurrection is over A Western Kentucky couple who participated in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol were sentenced Friday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. Both Thomas and Lori Vinson were sentenced to five years’ probation, fined $5,000 and ordered to pay restitution of $500, court records show. U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton also ordered the Vinsons to perform 120 hours of community service, the Associated Press reported. Wow all that for the worst action since the Civil War ? Huh. https://www.yahoo.com/news/kentucky-couple-were-part-mob-002244258.html
Doc Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: We're back to "Watergate" again? No surprise for that pony. It's his one trick...
BillStime Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Doc said: We're back to "Watergate" again? No surprise for that pony. It's his one trick... What happened at the Willard?
Doc Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: What happened at the Willard? I couldn't care less. After what happened after Trump got elected in 2016, the left lost any moral high ground they had.
BillStime Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Doc said: I couldn't care less. After what happened after Trump got elected in 2016, the left lost any moral high ground they had. Tell us what happened to Trump after 2016 that wasn’t self inflicted?
Doc Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Tell us what happened to Trump after 2016 that wasn’t self inflicted? Tell me what was? It was all bull####. Russian collusion: bull####. Russian bounties: bull####. Even the Zelensy phone call was legit now that we (all, since many of us knew back then) know what a shitbag Hunter is.
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Tell us what happened to Trump after 2016 that wasn’t self inflicted? Not that you'll believe anything I present but the Clinton campaign generated and FBI enabled Russian collusion hoax. Fake intell which they knew was fake, fake justification for FISA warrants that everyone involved knew was fake which is a crime the FBI committed, investigation into fake events and connections which everyone knew never happened. Something zealots on the left continue to believe is real regardless of a complete absence of facts. But that's what zealots do, believe their own lies. That's why they cling to 1/6 conspiracy theory and this illegitimate and undemocratic committee (Nancy rejected all the minority names submitted she didn't like and ignored House rules on committee appointments) as a do-over. The danger is that another failure and fatal blow here to their psyche will be too much for the faithful to handle. I suspect they should prepare for another loss as nobody is charged for anything remotely close to insurrection. So now the focus will be away from the actual event with an eye towards drumming up some "suspicions" and "circumstantial" type conclusions regarding imaginary insurrection planning conspiracies Facts do not matter to the Committee. They'll issue some fake report and attempt to enact more authoritarian restrictions on individual freedom and label anyone opposing their conclusions as a supporter of tyranny. Which is ironic. Tyrants calling other people tyrants.
BillStime Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Not that you'll believe anything I present but the Clinton campaign generated and FBI enabled Russian collusion hoax. Fake intell which they knew was fake, fake justification for FISA warrants that everyone involved knew was fake which is a crime the FBI committed, investigation into fake events and connections which everyone knew never happened. Something zealots on the left continue to believe is real regardless of a complete absence of facts. But that's what zealots do, believe their own lies. That's why they cling to 1/6 conspiracy theory and this illegitimate and undemocratic committee (Nancy rejected all the minority names submitted she didn't like and ignored House rules on committee appointments) as a do-over. The danger is that another failure and fatal blow here to their psyche will be too much for the faithful to handle. I suspect they should prepare for another loss as nobody is charged for anything remotely close to insurrection. So now the focus will be away from the actual event with an eye towards drumming up some "suspicions" and "circumstantial" type conclusions regarding imaginary insurrection planning conspiracies Facts do not matter to the Committee. They'll issue some fake report and attempt to enact more authoritarian restrictions on individual freedom and label anyone opposing their conclusions as a supporter of tyranny. Which is ironic. Tyrants calling other people tyrants. Why did Trump collude w Russia? 21 minutes ago, Doc said: Tell me what was? It was all bull####. Russian collusion: bull####. Russian bounties: bull####. Even the Zelensy phone call was legit now that we (all, since many of us knew back then) know what a shitbag Hunter is. Why did Trump collude w Russia?
BillStime Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 Remember when Trump told the Justice Department to ‘just say that the election was corrupt’ and ‘leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen' - he wasn't kidding (as we all already knew). Along with Greene, the conspiratorial pro-Trump Republican from Georgia who took office earlier this year, the pair both say the members who participated in these conversations or had top staffers join in included Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), and Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). “We would talk to Boebert’s team, Cawthorn’s team, Gosar’s team like back to back to back to back,” says the organizer. link Quote And Gosar, who has been one of the most prominent defenders of the Jan. 6 rioters, allegedly took things a step further. Both sources say he dangled the possibility of a “blanket pardon” in an unrelated ongoing investigation to encourage them to plan the protests. “Our impression was that it was a done deal,” the organizer says, “that he’d spoken to the president about it in the Oval … in a meeting about pardons and that our names came up. They were working on submitting the paperwork and getting members of the House Freedom Caucus to sign on as a show of support.” The organizer claims the pair received “several assurances” about the “blanket pardon” from Gosar. “I was just going over the list of pardons and we just wanted to tell you guys how much we appreciate all the hard work you’ve been doing,” Gosar said, according to the organizer. In another indication members of Congress may have been involved in planning the protests against the election, Ali Alexander, who helped organize the “Wild Protest,” declared in a since-deleted livestream broadcast that Gosar, Brooks, and Biggs helped him formulate the strategy for that event. “I was the person who came up with the Jan. 6 idea with Congressman Gosar, Congressman Mo Brooks, and Congressman Andy Biggs,” Alexander said at the time. “We four schemed up on putting maximum pressure on Congress while they were voting so that — who we couldn’t lobby — we could change the hearts and the minds of Republicans who were in that body hearing our loud roar from outside.” Alexander led Stop the Steal, which was one of the main groups promoting efforts to dispute Trump’s loss. In December, he organized a Stop the Steal event in Phoenix, where Gosar was one the main speakers. At that demonstration, Alexander referred to Gosar as “my captain” and declared “one of the other heroes has been Congressman Andy Biggs.” Alexander did not respond to requests for comment. The rally planner, who accused Alexander of ratcheting up the potential for violence that day while taking advantage of funds from donors and others who helped finance the events, confirmed that he was in contact with those three members of Congress. “He just couldn’t help himself but go on his live and just talk about everything that he did and who he talked to,” the planner says of Alexander. “So, he, like, really told on himself.”
Doc Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Why did Trump collude w Russia? Why did Trump collude w Russia? Huh? He didn't.
BillStime Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Huh? He didn't. Yes, he did. Why are you in denial? Mueller and the GOP led Senate Report are lying?
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Yes, he did. Why are you in denial? Mueller and the GOP led Senate Report are lying? You sound delusional here. The moment of truth has arrived. Present some evidence. Not opinions, not tweets, not subjective or anecdotal stories. Real, hard facts that have passed the burden of proof. Produce the specific names of Trump campaign and administration people and the names of their Russian "contacts" along with dates they met and what they discussed? All things the Mueller team investigated and research but came up empty. Because none of it ever happened in real life. Your contention there is some grand cover-up is irrational given the facts. Everyone is involved in a cover-up. Even Mueller? And his band of Trump-hating lawyers?
B-Man Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 Quick reminder: Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; AG Barr ... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-report-conclusions-trump-congress-attorney-general-william-barr-n986611 Mar 24, 2019 — Special counsel Robert Mueller found no proof of collusion with Russia and
BillStime Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 48 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You sound delusional here. The moment of truth has arrived. Present some evidence. Not opinions, not tweets, not subjective or anecdotal stories. Real, hard facts that have passed the burden of proof. Produce the specific names of Trump campaign and administration people and the names of their Russian "contacts" along with dates they met and what they discussed? All things the Mueller team investigated and research but came up empty. Because none of it ever happened in real life. Your contention there is some grand cover-up is irrational given the facts. Everyone is involved in a cover-up. Even Mueller? And his band of Trump-hating lawyers? Get it right - YOU are delusional and afraid to actually do your own research and not rely on sugar coated trump news and talking points from your corrupt news sources. Why wouldn't you start with the actual GOP led Senate Report that highlights all the ties between 2016 Trump campaign and Russia.? Or the Mueller Report? Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians Start there and get back to us with your sources that dispute all of these findings. WE WILL WAIT
SoCal Deek Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Get it right - YOU are delusional and afraid to actually do your own research and not rely on sugar coated trump news and talking points from your corrupt news sources. Why wouldn't you start with the actual GOP led Senate Report that highlights all the ties between 2016 Trump campaign and Russia.? Or the Mueller Report? Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians Start there and get back to us with your sources that dispute all of these findings. WE WILL WAIT And you define contacts as collusion?
B-Man Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: WE WILL WAIT There is no "WE" little man..................just you. CONSPIRACY AT THE WILLARD HOTEL, A FANTASY by Paul Mirengoff A headline at the top of the Washington Post’s front page today informs us that “D.C.’s Willard hotel served as ‘command center’ for Trump team” during that team’s attempt to contest the 2020 election. I’m not sure what’s headline-worthy about this. Presumably, Al Gore had a command center or “war room” when he was contesting the result of the 2000 election. That’s standard operating procedure. I don’t see that it matters whether Trump’s team headquartered itself at the Willard, a Holiday Inn, or Steve Bannon’s basement. All that matters at this point is whether anything illegal or improper occurred at the “command center.” The Post’s article shows that, as far as the Post knows, neither illegality nor impropriety occurred. Maybe that’s why the Post felt compelled to highlight the location of the command center at a “posh” hotel. {snip} Unfortunately, congressional Dems aren’t interested in a legitimate inquiry. They simply wish to keep generating news stories about January 6, hoping, unrealistically, to make that day one that will live infamy — and not just in the minds of partisan Democrats and never-Trumpers. The Washington Post is eager to do its part. MUCH more at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/10/conspiracy-at-the-willard-hotel-a-fantasy.php
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