B-Man Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So now it's bust a window and crawl in and see what happens? Not long ago it was climb the fence. Why does your argument change so much? He was proven wrong, so now he has to change it. It’s what he does.
Chef Jim Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, keepthefaith said: Hate to say it but I'm going to agree with you somewhat here. There are things you can do or say in this country that will put your life at risk. The laws won't protect you. The 1st amendment won't always protect you. I'd say breaking into the capital and then forcing your way through doorways or a broken window is one of those things that puts one's life at risk. It's not a legal act but also not one that should result in being shot dead without warning. Now if AB's case is fairly adjudicated, the end result might be that she was wrongfully killed. Too late though, she's gone and she made a terrible decision IMO to enter that building as a part of that crowd that day. The officer may be held responsible civilly. 2 wrongs don't make a right here. And now the rest of the story. The left doesn't blame her one bit. It's because she was lied to! Well over 70,000,000 who voted Trump were lied to but only a handful decided to climb into the Capitol that day. Sorry folks. This one ain't on Donald Trump. 1
BillStime Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I'm trying to find out. You seem to know the answer. If I climb the fence at the WH will I be shot? go find out 17 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: And now the rest of the story. The left doesn't blame her one bit. It's because she was lied to! Well over 70,000,000 who voted Trump were lied to but only a handful decided to climb into the Capitol that day. Sorry folks. This one ain't on Donald Trump. Delusional
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Hate to say it but I'm going to agree with you somewhat here. There are things you can do or say in this country that will put your life at risk. The laws won't protect you. The 1st amendment won't always protect you. I'd say breaking into the capital and then forcing your way through doorways or a broken window is one of those things that puts one's life at risk. It's not a legal act but also not one that should result in being shot dead without warning. Now if AB's case is fairly adjudicated, the end result might be that she was wrongfully killed. Too late though, she's gone and she made a terrible decision IMO to enter that building as a part of that crowd that day. The officer may be held responsible civilly. 2 wrongs don't make a right here. Sure, and we’re back full circle to whether or not the shooting of AB was justified, necessary and all things considered, righteous. When you look at the microscope most law enforcement shootings are viewed under, it’s very strange this isn’t getting that type of scrutiny. Michael Brown roughs up a store clerk 50% of his size, attacks a police officer in his police car in an attempt to seize his gun, leaves, charges the officer and is shot and all he’ll breaks loose. He’s the poster child for making really bad life choices, placed an officer in a “it’s you or me” scenario and is STILL considered a martyr after a DOJ investigation. AB is an averaged sized female, unarmed based on the investigation and is shot in the neck and…crickets. I was with you all along, but this scenario makes no sense whatsoever.
Unforgiven Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: go find out Jim - jump the fence - and see what happens - 1/6 changed everything lol...no it didn't, it was another in a long line of bull#### smoking guns pushed by bull#### propagandists and their useful idiots. and it's just being used by nasty nancy to try and get people to forget the awful biden presidency and put the focus on trump for 2020 midterms. so blab blah blah more, chump 1
Unforgiven Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, 716er said: 24/7 365 alinsky 24/7 now f off forever. now go and make a new form of your name and try harder. Edited August 9, 2021 by Unforgiven
BillStime Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: lol...no it didn't, it was another in a long line of bull#### smoking guns pushed by bull#### propagandists and their useful idiots. and it's just being used by nasty nancy to try and get people to forget the awful biden presidency and put the focus on trump for 2020 midterms. so blab blah blah more, chump Go find out champ. The fence. Bring all your friends, too. Just like 1/6. Go find out freak.
Chef Jim Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: go find out And if get shot can my heirs blame you?
BillStime Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: And if get shot can my heirs blame you? go find out
Chef Jim Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: go find out Why are you so interested in seeing me dead? You tired of getting your ass handed to you.
BillStime Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Why are you so interested in seeing me dead? You tired of getting your ass handed to you. Yea ok tough guy
Chef Jim Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: Yea ok tough guy Tough guy? You’re the one who says climbing the WH fence will get you shot and then telling me to go find out. Pretty hateful stuff there Billy Boy. Hate like that is not good. But it’s your life. Carry on….
keepthefaith Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Sure, and we’re back full circle to whether or not the shooting of AB was justified, necessary and all things considered, righteous. When you look at the microscope most law enforcement shootings are viewed under, it’s very strange this isn’t getting that type of scrutiny. Michael Brown roughs up a store clerk 50% of his size, attacks a police officer in his police car in an attempt to seize his gun, leaves, charges the officer and is shot and all he’ll breaks loose. He’s the poster child for making really bad life choices, placed an officer in a “it’s you or me” scenario and is STILL considered a martyr after a DOJ investigation. AB is an averaged sized female, unarmed based on the investigation and is shot in the neck and…crickets. I was with you all along, but this scenario makes no sense whatsoever. Agree the cop used excessive force and provided no warning before firing.
SoCal Deek Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 People climb the White House fence now and again. We’ve all seen it on the news. I can’t recall a single one of them being shot! I even recall the couple who crashed a White House dinner party a few years ago and they also weren’t shot! They were in the SAME ROOM as dozens of elected officials.
716er Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: People climb the White House fence now and again. We’ve all seen it on the news. I can’t recall a single one of them being shot! I even recall the couple who crashed a White House dinner party a few years ago and they also weren’t shot! They were in the SAME ROOM as dozens of elected officials. Some dude got shot in the 70s for scaling the fence/into the White House. He had a club or something on him, though. Not sure if anyone else has been shot. Another guy during the Ford years got famous for sneaking over the fence. He was in photos with Ford's daughter. Is someone suggesting a solo climb of the white house fence is akin to being inside the capitol on 1/6 breaking through a broken window with a mob right behind? Edited August 10, 2021 by 716er
Chef Jim Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, 716er said: Is someone suggesting a solo climb of the white house fence is akin to being inside the capitol on 1/6 breaking through a broken window with a mob right behind? No but he insinuated that jumping the fence at the WH will get you shot.
SoCal Deek Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 If I recall, they didn’t even shoot the guy who shot Reagan…did they?
Irv Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) This is still a topic? A bunch of pathetic losers wandering around aimlessly in the Capitol. Yawn. Come up with something real. Biden has failed so miserably and Dems/Dumbs agenda is destroying the economy and country at record speed. Laughable. What a joke and mess. Edited August 10, 2021 by Irv 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, 716er said: Some dude got shot in the 70s for scaling the fence/into the White House. He had a club or something on him, though. Not sure if anyone else has been shot. Another guy during the Ford years got famous for sneaking over the fence. He was in photos with Ford's daughter. Is someone suggesting a solo climb of the white house fence is akin to being inside the capitol on 1/6 breaking through a broken window with a mob right behind? Fair question. There were mobs all last summer, angry af, targeting law enforcement and citizens alike. There were photos of angry protestors on a house roof in Albany, peering in. Angry mob confronted diners at street side restaurants. Angry mobs stop traffic, surrounded cars, tried to burn down police stations with people inside. Angry mobs shot fireworks at law enforcement officers. In most every case, the officers in and around the area, and the civilians accosted exercised restraint and did not fire into the neck of unarmed individuals/angry mobsters. In virtually every case we’ve had over the past few years, the frame by frame debrief of actions and thought processes provides analysis up to and including our current president suggesting something like this: “Yeah, the officer was in danger, but he should have aimed at the foot.” It’s been 7 months. We aren’t even entitled to the name of the officer and an explanation as to why an unarmed woman was dispatched by a highly skilled marksman while other officers milled about with the group? Where are all the foot-shot advocates these days? Edited August 10, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1
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