BillStime Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: No, calling it an "insurrection" is a lie, for political purposes only. There was never any threat to the government as a whole, or even lawmakers. And as such, there will not be any sedition and/or treason charges. And we definitely would have heard if there were by now. Rewrite history harder bro - keep trying - you just might be able to convince someone outside your cult. 2
SectionC3 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Doc said: No, calling it an "insurrection" is a lie, for political purposes only. There was never any threat to the government as a whole, or even lawmakers. And as such, there will not be any sedition and/or treason charges. And we definitely would have heard if there were by now. Mike Pence disagrees. So does the guy running around the Capitol with zip ties. The family of the fallen officer probably feels differently, too. Blue lives matter, until they don’t or it gets a little inconvenient for them to matter, right DoQ? 55 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You're just speculating on what might or might not be sealed. So it might be prudent to not call it something that the available facts don't support and take a wait and see approach. That said, if somebody was actually charged with insurrection or treason that would be broadcast 24/7? Or leaked? Sealed or no sealed when it benefits to reveal something or if it might be damaging to the defense's case there's no hesitation. What baffles me is how anyone can perceive the government at this point as some bastion of ethics and virtue. You guys must be on some heavy hallucinogenics to buy into that view. Or have a vested interest in big government like being on the payroll. Or getting lots of free government support or grants or funding for something or another. And per the insurrection narrative. My conclusion to this point based on the available evidence is there was violence committed on that day but the characterization of it as insurrection is an exaggeration of the risks posed by the threat and circumstances of the event. And I'm willing to adjust that conclusion when and if more and better information becomes available. I think that's a reasonable approach. But in any event you still cannot name any insurrectionist charges regardless of what excuse you might want to use. So your assessment that its insurrection is just not supported by the facts you have available so why do you continue to insist that is what it was here? Presumption of innocence here rather than guilt by accusation. So let's come back to this when we get a read out all the charges, trial, and convictions or acquittals. Nah, it’s prudent to call it what it’s shown to be on video. An insurrection. Nothing more, nothing less. If you’re cool with the Capitol being overrun, that’s on you. I’m not, and I guess we just have to agree to disagree on our view of what’s acceptable in that respect. 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: The impeachment was a sham! Everyone but you apparently knows it…and yet there was the main perpetrator at the prosecution table. Except for the fact that Trump was formally charged. Twice. So, not really a sham after all. Edited July 22, 2021 by SectionC3 1
Nineforty Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 so many lost causes chiming in here. don't bother engaging with them. losers just like Donald J 1
Westside Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: I’d be less worried about a “farce” and more worried about the insurrection. That is, unless you supported the insurrection. So, did you support the insurrection? Do you support the riots, looting and killing that went on for months and still going on? You’ve never spoken out against it, so by your limited thinking, you must approve of last years insurrections.
B-Man Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Do you support the riots, looting and killing that went on for months and still going on? You’ve never spoken out against it, so by your limited thinking, you must approve of last years insurrections. VOTERS AREN’T AS STUPID AS OUR RULING CLASS HOPED: Two-thirds want BLM riots probed, more than Jan. 6. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/two-thirds-want-blm-riots-probed-more-than-jan-6 https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/two_thirds_of_voters_want_congress_to_investigate_2020_riots 1
ALF Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Do you support the riots, looting and killing that went on for months and still going on? You’ve never spoken out against it, so by your limited thinking, you must approve of last years insurrections. I will always be against riots and looting , never justified for any reason 1
SectionC3 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Bidens_basement said: Do you support the riots, looting and killing that went on for months and still going on? You’ve never spoken out against it, so by your limited thinking, you must approve of last years insurrections. Whataboutism. Nice. Looks like you’re cool with overrunning the Capitol in support of the Trump election hoax. Unto each her own, I guess.
Doc Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Mike Pence disagrees. So does the guy running around the Capitol with zip ties. The family of the fallen officer probably feels differently, too. Blue lives matter, until they don’t or it gets a little inconvenient for them to matter, right DoQ? Yeah, that's the thing about real versus perceived threats. But if Pence was in the bunker, shouldn't you be laughing at him? As for the fallen officer, he didn't die from what happened that day. You can't give someone a blood clot. Another hoax. I usually back the blue. Why they were so woefully undermanned is the biggest scandal. They knew there would be thousands of protestors and someone decided to ignore the pleas for more security. Why? Edited July 22, 2021 by Doc 1
SoCal Deek Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 What does anyone expect from Nancy? She comes from a State and represents a City that’s as close to One Party Rule as you can get in a republic. She has no concept of the minority party getting a say, an opinion, or any real power. It’s completely foreign to her. 1
SectionC3 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: Yeah, that's the thing about real versus perceived threats. But if Pence was in the bunker, shouldn't you be laughing at him? As for the fallen officer, he didn't die from what happened that day. You can't give someone a blood clot. Another hoax. I usually back the blue. Why they were so woefully undermanned is the biggest scandal. They knew there would be thousands of protestors and someone decided to ignore the pleas for more security. Why? Good point. The pepper spray used against Sicknick didn’t kill him. That makes the whole thing better. And I totally understand not backing the blue here. Capitol Police totally should have anticipated that persons gathered for that “rally” would be encouraged to storm the Capitol by the fat ####### who happened to be POTUS at that moment. Happens all the time. Who could forget the time Antifa overran the Capitol during the GWB presidency? Or that scene from Independence Day, which totally happened in real life? If Antifa and aliens have taken over the Capitol and the WH, then the Capitol Police are definitely in the wrong for not anticipating that POTUS would encourage an insurrection. All their fault, all day long. Solid points as usual, DoQ. 1 hour ago, B-Man said: From that Right wing rag -- The NYT Of course, had we not had an insurrection by Trump supporters in the first place, then we wouldn’t have that problem. Excellent job at passing the buck and blaming someone else by B-Man. Well done, sir.
Unforgiven Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, B-Man said: From that Right wing rag -- The NYT It reminds me of the JFK assassination.. Against recommendations, they let the motorcade take a bad turn that forced it to slow way down, in an area where there were tons of unsecured spots. All after a failed attempt on the presidents life.... But as the monkeys all say, baseless.
Chef Jim Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Good point. The pepper spray used against Sicknick didn’t kill him. That makes the whole thing better. And I totally understand not backing the blue here. Capitol Police totally should have anticipated that persons gathered for that “rally” would be encouraged to storm the Capitol by the fat ####### who happened to be POTUS at that moment. Happens all the time. Who could forget the time Antifa overran the Capitol during the GWB presidency? Or that scene from Independence Day, which totally happened in real life? If Antifa and aliens have taken over the Capitol and the WH, then the Capitol Police are definitely in the wrong for not anticipating that POTUS would encourage an insurrection. All their fault, all day long. Solid points as usual, DoQ. They were encouraged to storm the Capital? When and how were they encouraged to "storm the Capital"?
SectionC3 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: They were encouraged to storm the Capital? When and how were they encouraged to "storm the Capital"? “Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue!” “Show strength!” “Fight like hell!” Have a nice day, Chef Jim Crow. Let us know if you have any new ideas on how to suppress minority votes. Or, better yet, call your Q pals and bring them up to speed.
Chef Jim Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: “Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue!” “Show strength!” “Fight like hell!” Have a nice day, Chef Jim Crow. Let us know if you have any new ideas on how to suppress minority votes. Or, better yet, call your Q pals and bring them up to speed. Where's the mention of the Capital? Check and mate. Edited July 22, 2021 by Chef Jim
SoCal Deek Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: “Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue!” “Show strength!” “Fight like hell!” Have a nice day, Chef Jim Crow. Let us know if you have any new ideas on how to suppress minority votes. Or, better yet, call your Q pals and bring them up to speed. OK. At this moment the description fits. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
Doc Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Good point. The pepper spray used against Sicknick didn’t kill him. That makes the whole thing better. And I totally understand not backing the blue here. Capitol Police totally should have anticipated that persons gathered for that “rally” would be encouraged to storm the Capitol by the fat ####### who happened to be POTUS at that moment. Happens all the time. Who could forget the time Antifa overran the Capitol during the GWB presidency? Or that scene from Independence Day, which totally happened in real life? If Antifa and aliens have taken over the Capitol and the WH, then the Capitol Police are definitely in the wrong for not anticipating that POTUS would encourage an insurrection. All their fault, all day long. Solid points as usual, DoQ. While not good, pepper spraying and not actually killing officer Sicknick was "better." Which is why the idiots who assaulted him won't be charged with, much less convicted of, murder (or sedition or treason). And Trump told his followers to storm the Capitol just like those dumb ####### Democrat pols told people to kill and injure people and destroy and loot property for 8 months last year. See I can read into things what I want just as well as you can. Maybe the Capitol police should be asking why there wasn't more security that day? Again it's not like everyone didn't know what was going to happen. That would have been the best way to "back the blue."
John Adams Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Where's the mention of the Capital? Check and mate. Trump is as innocent as the wind driven snow on the election fraud claims I guess.
Beach Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 was the left always this bad? was i blind to it before?
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