Back2Buff Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Carolina players have been just money holes on this team. 1 2 1
Royale with Cheese Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Exactly like we did with Darryl Williams last year, coming off the same type of injury history. Short would replace Jefferson and/or Butler. I think they both will be gone. 2 1
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Short would replace Jefferson and/or Butler. I think they both will be gone. I sure hope so. They thought they'd turn Butler into Jordan Phillips 2.0, but they found out he's just Vernon Butler 1.0 still. 2 4
Augie Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 5 games in past 2 seasons. He must have fresh legs??? 5
JohnNord Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Bills don't need DTs. They need edge rushers. Hard pass. He is 32. They need to get younger, bigger, and faster on the edge. I disagree. A big part of their issues on defense was how easily offensive lines could push around the middle of the defense. Many have said that lacking a true space eating DT also is why Edmunds struggled. You may not like Short, but I don’t think you can say the Bills don’t need DT’s. We aren’t even 100% that Star comes back next season 1
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I disagree. A big part of their issues on defense was how easily offensive lines could push around the middle of the defense. Many have said that lacking a true space eating DT also is why Edmunds struggled. You may not like Short, but I don’t think you can say the Bills don’t need DT’s. We aren’t even 100% that Star comes back next season Unless he retires completely, Star will be back. But even if he does come back, we still need another 1-tech to rotate with him. And even if we got both of them, with their ages, we need to be looking for 2 more young 1-techs to sign soon. I'm not thrilled with the idea of signing another Panther cast off, but this could actually help. Maybe. 2
appoo Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Absolutely the eff not. Not only is he worse than Star (he graded quite poorly for the 3 games he's played) but he's not had two straight years worth of surgery shortened seasons. Oh and we can't afford to move on from Star, who Dead Cap prohibits it.
billsfan89 Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Wouldn't hate a one year cheap deal. Could use him as a DT5 in camp and maybe he finds his old form?
Process Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Also an old, very average vet on the decline. Checks all the boxes for what we look for in a Dlineman. Get er done. 6
No_Matter_What Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If its okay with JJ Watt I thought you don't care anymore. Or did you give Beane some extra hours?
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 At his best Kawann Short was a premier 3tech in the NFL. Probably only Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox were better, and that was playing in a McDermott defense. Unfortunately his body is broken down and his skills are significantly diminished. It is a hard pass from me and I loved the guy. If he ends up sitting out there into dust settles free agency though.... then don't be surprised if the Bills sniff around. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: At his best Kawann Short was a premier 3tech in the NFL. Probably only Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox were better, and that was playing in a McDermott defense. Unfortunately his body is broken down and his skills are significantly diminished. It is a hard pass from me and I loved the guy. If he ends up sitting out there into dust settles free agency though.... then don't be surprised if the Bills sniff around. Interesting. If he cant play 1-tech then I'm not interested at all. And I hope Beane isnt either.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Process said: Also an old, very average vet on the decline. Checks all the boxes for what we look for in a Dlineman. Get er done. as long as they can lock him up for 9 million guaranteed money it’s a win🙄 Edited February 16, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Interesting. If he cant play 1-tech then I'm not interested at all. And I hope Beane isnt either. Yea he was mainly the 3T to Star's 1T. 1
dma0034 Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 If he is cheap why not? It's not like the Bills are loaded at the spot and I look at this as a low risk high reward type 2
Nextmanup Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: He's barely played in 2 years... Think how fresh he'll be!
freddyjj Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Unless he retires completely, Star will be back. But even if he does come back, we still need another 1-tech to rotate with him. And even if we got both of them, with their ages, we need to be looking for 2 more young 1-techs to sign soon. I'm not thrilled with the idea of signing another Panther cast off, but this could actually help. Maybe. We have Harrison Phillips to play 1T and spell Star. Short is a 3T in McD's Defensive scheme.
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 5 games in past 2 seasons. Well rested lol??? 1
appoo Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: We have Harrison Phillips to play 1T and spell Star. Short is a 3T in McD's Defensive scheme. I hadn't realized that. His body screams 1T
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, freddyjj said: We have Harrison Phillips to play 1T and spell Star. Short is a 3T in McD's Defensive scheme. Exactly why I say we need another 1T to rotate with Star. 2 2 1
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