schoolhouserock Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Chris Doyle held his position as head S&C coach in Iowa from 1999 to 2020. Of far greater concern than complaints about untied shoes or cornrows was this, which happened on his watch in 2011: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/university-iowa-football-players-hospitalized-muscle-condition/story?id=12780810 "Unclear how the students developed the condition" is complete and total bull####. The causes of rhabdomyolysis are very clear: it's caused by over-using a muscle to the point where the muscle cells die and rupture, releasing sufficient myoglobin into the blood that it can overwhelm and damage the kidney. Short-term and in some cases long-term loss of use to the affected muscle group can occur. It's become increasingly common with the "Extreme Fitness" trend of CrossFit Boxes, in which poorly-informed trainers design workouts that overuse the same set of muscles and the "workout partner" setup engages peer pressure to "keep up" past the point of fatigue. When 13 players on one team are hospitalized at once, it's extremely probable that their coaches directed them to perform an inappropriate level and duration of repetitive muscle exercise for their current level of conditioning. This is a giant Red Flag to placing this man in charge of an NFL S&C program. Players need to have strong trust that if they follow the guidance of their S&C staff, they will be enabled to improve their level of play, not to have their bodies (thus careers) and internal organs placed at risk. It's a double flag when the program is the Jacksonville Jaguars, a team that is only a short time out from leading the league in Player Grievances, in part due to practices of requiring players to rehabilitate off-season at the team facility in violation of the NFL/NFLPA contract. https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2019/12/16/21024854/nflpa-report-jaguars-accounted-for-more-than-25-of-all-grievances Maybe it's not his fault, but it happened on his watch, while he was leading the program, and surely there is some qualified person who does NOT have this on his resume. There was actually a neat study published based on this incident. The conclusion was that they performed a type of extreme squat exercise too soon off of a long break (it was actually the first day back after about a month off!). It was an exercise that the team had been doing for a long time, but they usually trained for a longer period before attempting the exercise. Here is a summary of the study by the local paper. https://www.thegazette.com/2013/09/18/university-of-iowa-physicians-paper-on-rhabdo-published-in-national-journal Any which way, in his final days at Iowa, if you didn’t judge Doyle’s ‘motivational techniques’ as outright racist, then he at least came off as a royal #######. Here is an example of the type of behavior in question: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29283973/ex-iowa-db-diauntae-morrow-details-alleged-2009-altercation-strength-coach-chris-doyle 1
LabattBlue Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: How crazy is it that Tampa was so close to having all three of their major sports teams win their respective championships for the same colander season?? I don’t think this gets talked about enough. 😉 https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/231201-tampa-was-close-to-winning-3-championships-in-the-last-6-months/ Edited February 13, 2021 by BTB 1
LABILLBACKER Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Seoulofstone said: This was a stupid and arrogant hire by Meyer. He tried to defend it and just two days later is walking it back. Not a good look for a new regime. Meyers will suffer the same fate as Spurrier or Saban. He will fail as an NFL coach because now he's dealing with grown men. And he will eventually return to college. 2
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Meyers will suffer the same fate as Spurrier or Saban. He will fail as an NFL coach because now he's dealing with grown men. And he will eventually return to college. Like Rodney Dangerfield?!
Beerball Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 Urban's first screw up. Hiring a guy because you've known him for 20 years ain't gonna fly son.
JohnC Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 It appears from this story by SI that Doyle resigned form the job already. https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2021/02/13/hot-clicks-urban-meyer-chris-doyle
YoloinOhio Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CSBill said: The idiot here is Meyer. It didn’t take too long for his narcissistic self to shine through in his new gig. “Urb, this is the NFL, not like the usual big time and isolated from any control college programs you normally lead. No boosters to cover for you here.” How many black FAs will choose to play for him? Answer, little to none. They should fire him now if they really want to make a statement. I heard from a very reliable source that Curtis Samuel will 1000% not end up in Jax (many have connected him there in FA), and that it will be curt’s choice. Nothing to do with the above though, but it doesn’t help. Should be noted that there's an Iowa alum on the Jaguars roster, Greg Mabin, who was one of the players who spoke out against Doyle. Edited February 13, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1
YoloinOhio Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 He maybe should've consulted the Chiefs on how to hire a perceived POS. They have that down pat. 1
PrimeTime101 Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 19 hours ago, The Wiz said: Chris Doyle's time with the Jags the revolving door syndrome lol
LeGOATski Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 Lol, man... they really didn't do their homework on that hire.
GunnerBill Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 5:11 AM, Limeaid said: Sanjay Lal IMO was a very good coach and was replaced by a very poor one by Coach McD. Chad Hall, while inexperience, does appear to be a good one. On what basis was Lal good?
eball Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: What's unbelievable is that Doyle got paid 1.1M for being a racist douche.
Mango Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: Lol, man... they really didn't do their homework on that hire. Sure they did, they just didn't give a poop. 1
LeGOATski Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mango said: Sure they did, they just didn't give a poop. I think they give a ***** about self-preservation, at the very least. Edited July 14, 2021 by LeGOATski
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