Doc Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 14 hours ago, B-Man said: I'm not sure where to put this, because the locals don't seem to want to start too many 'President' Biden threads. Not much going on there. 😎 Biden admin reportedly gives *green light to open back up to pre-Covid capacity (*migrant holding facilities only) https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/03/05/biden-admin-reportedly-gives-green-light-to-open-back-up-to-pre-covid-capacity-migrant-holding-facilities-only/ Media talking point INCOMING: Biden admin reportedly considering ‘friendlier name’ for border detention facilities https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/03/05/media-talking-point-incoming-biden-admin-reportedly-considering-friendlier-name-for-border-detention-facilities/ Why does Joey's admin need to do that? The media will do that for them.
B-Man Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 JOE BIDEN’S UGLY BETRAYAL OF THE IRANIAN PEOPLE: BY MARIAM MEMARSADEGHI In the short time since taking office, Biden has already snubbed Iranian dissidents who courageously wrote to him from inside Iran, some writing from prison, urging him to maintain sanctions and other pressures on the regime and to provide support and solidarity for their democratic struggle. Instead, their message was received as an inconvenience by a White House national security team staffed with some of the regime’s leading U.S.-based apologists. The administration then quickly provided other sweeteners to the regime, including the lifting of sanctions on their proxy in Yemen, the lifting of restrictions on its arms buying and selling, the lifting of U.S. opposition to an IMF loan, and the neutering of a pro-freedom public diplomacy initiative from the State Department, which went overnight from being a popular source of information on the regime’s repression and corruption to the butt of jokes among Iranian democracy activists. The initiative‘s Persian-language Twitter account has had a steep drop in followers since the U.S. election because of its canceling of real-time statements about the regime’s human rights abuses in favor of promotion of the Biden team’s appeasement measures. When angry Iranians on Twitter pushed the State Department into taking a stand about the regime’s torture and killing of Behnam Mahjoubi, it only raised their ire by saying he was “mistreated.” Biden’s decided U-turn away from maximum pressure on the regime to a posture of maximum accommodation has been accompanied by silence about the regime’s escalation of its war against its own people, and anyone else who is unfortunate enough to fall within its reach. Biden’s policy of appeasement has been accompanied by large increases in the number of executions and deaths in custody of political prisoners, the taking of foreign hostages for ransom, and threats to kill dual nationals like Swedish Iranian researcher Ahmadreza Djalali. The new administration has, in effect, taken every opportunity to demonstrate to Iran’s thuggish theocracy that it will give in, even signaling that the regime’s holding of American hostages will not be an impediment to negotiations on the nuclear program. The results of this policy of accommodation are clear. Khamenei has not hesitated to respond by intensifying belligerence by the Islamic Republic’s proxies, who shell American troops in Iraq. America’s other leading adversaries, particularly China and Russia, are also taking note; they do not expect to be confronted for their aggressions and can more easily plot to fill the vacuum left by the United States in the Middle East. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/obama-trump-iran-nuclear
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) There’s no border issue, period. I’ve been watching msm all week and it hasn’t come up, not once. The only thing leaked through was the suv accident that killed 13 of the 25 in the car... if the non fox (which goes to the other extreme) media was however opposed to the current administration and held Republican allegiance the headline would have been: BIDEN IMMIGRATION POLICY TWICE AS DEADLY AS ELECTION FRUAD PROTESTS. Edited March 6, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: There’s no border issue, period. I’ve been watching msm all week and it hasn’t come up, not once. The only thing leaked through was the suv accident that killed 13 of the 25 in the car... if the non fox (which goes to the other extreme) media was however opposed to the current administration and held Republican allegiance the headline would have been: BIDEN IMMIGRATION POLICY TWICE AS DEADLY AS ELECTION FRUAD PROTESTS. Or Huge migrant influx poses major COVID super-spreader event risk (throw in mention of more infectious and deadlier variants for dramatic effect) Administration faces humanitarian crisis at the border without a plan Family separation policy draws fire from immigration experts and faces calls for Congressional hearings Administration's media black-out policy draws ire from legal experts and activists while raising questions about abuse (What are they hiding?) I could go on. More or less the problem is what we get from MSN is controlled by 7 people. A concentration of power situation. Billionaires that use their power to deliver "news" and opinions to support their own personal agenda. Used to be you had professional news people running these organizations. They cared about the truth, finding and reporting facts, posing tough questions to officials and others. No more (other than going after Trump 24x7). Today its con men and grifters running the show. 2
SoCal Deek Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Or Huge migrant influx poses major COVID super-spreader event risk (throw in mention of more infectious and deadlier variants for dramatic effect) Administration faces humanitarian crisis at the border without a plan Family separation policy draws fire from immigration experts and faces calls for Congressional hearings Administration's media black-out policy draws ire from legal experts and activists while raising questions about abuse (What are they hiding?) I could go on. More or less the problem is what we get from MSN is controlled by 7 people. A concentration of power situation. Billionaires that use their power to deliver "news" and opinions to support their own personal agenda. Used to be you had professional news people running these organizations. They cared about the truth, finding and reporting facts, posing tough questions to officials and others. No more (other than going after Trump 24x7). Today its con men and grifters running the show. Thank you! Well said! it’s amazing to me how ‘informed’ so many people think they are but all they know is what they’re being told or what they read on the internet (cough). All you need to do is open your eyes and you’ll see the utter and complete media pivot since puppet Joe Biden took office and you’ll know what’s going on here. Edited March 7, 2021 by SoCal Deek
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Thank you! Well said! it’s amazing to me how ‘informed’ so many people think they are but all they know is what they’re being told or what they read on the internet (cough). All you need to do is open your eyes and you’ll see the utter and complete media pivot since puppet Joe Biden took office and you’ll know what’s going on here. I've always loved the comedy of George Carlin. His humor combined with the ability to break down a topic and expose the essence of an argument was second to none. Many of his conclusions and insights have stuck with me. A specific thing he said (to paraphrase) which I find applicable today is "the last thing any government wants is a population of critical thinking citizens. They want obedient workers that are just smart enough to get things done that won't ask too many questions". This can also be applied to the MSM because for all intents the MSM is now a instrument of government. That's kind of where we are now. Critical thinking, logical deduction, skeptical approaches to understanding events, are unwelcome and discouraged. Looking at most of the prevailing narratives of today anyone applying any or all of those concepts will likely generate a lot of tough questions that officials will prefer to avoid. To understand how all this works we need to examine how people think. I've concluded most people believe things that reinforce their pre-existing conclusions that come from sources they "trust". No matter how ridiculous or absurd these narratives or conclusions might seem to people applying mental tools like critical thinking. And why do they trust these sources? Simply because the message they communicate is something they agree with already. In other words its a closed loop feedback system. Anything that conflicts with the message being sent through the system is rejected. Until the trusted source in the system alters the message to include anything previously prohibited. 2
Doc Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Or Huge migrant influx poses major COVID super-spreader event risk (throw in mention of more infectious and deadlier variants for dramatic effect) Administration faces humanitarian crisis at the border without a plan Family separation policy draws fire from immigration experts and faces calls for Congressional hearings Administration's media black-out policy draws ire from legal experts and activists while raising questions about abuse (What are they hiding?) I could go on. More or less the problem is what we get from MSN is controlled by 7 people. A concentration of power situation. Billionaires that use their power to deliver "news" and opinions to support their own personal agenda. Used to be you had professional news people running these organizations. They cared about the truth, finding and reporting facts, posing tough questions to officials and others. No more (other than going after Trump 24x7). Today its con men and grifters running the show. Yup. You're not hearing about the crisis at the border from any of the MSM and how they are super-spreader events. But the same happened with the riots. 1 1
ALF Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 US B-52 bomber missions escorted by Israel, Saudi, Qatar warplanes Mar 7, 2021 @ 20:20 President Joe Biden sent a clear signal to Iran with a pair of US B-52 heavy Stratofortress bombers flying Sunday, March 7, over the Gulf region on their second mission under his administration. They also conveyed a message of solidarity. Israeli Air Force F-15s accompanied the US bombers over Israel before swinging around and heading for home base from their seventh mission over the Gulf. The B-52 bombers were also accompanied by military aircraft from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, US Army’s Central Command said. https://www.debka.com/us-b-52-bomber-missions-escorted-by-israel-saudi-qatar-warplanes/
Tiberius Posted March 8, 2021 Author Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 10:46 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: CBO also said this 1,9 trillion package is going to contribute to massive inflation. If you’re in the market for a home better hurry and lock . tech sector is getting annihilated. Smart move getting into energy. I'm still waiting for this massive inflation you guys said Obama was going to cause. Where the heck is it??? 53 minutes ago, ALF said: US B-52 bomber missions escorted by Israel, Saudi, Qatar warplanes Mar 7, 2021 @ 20:20 President Joe Biden sent a clear signal to Iran with a pair of US B-52 heavy Stratofortress bombers flying Sunday, March 7, over the Gulf region on their second mission under his administration. They also conveyed a message of solidarity. Israeli Air Force F-15s accompanied the US bombers over Israel before swinging around and heading for home base from their seventh mission over the Gulf. The B-52 bombers were also accompanied by military aircraft from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, US Army’s Central Command said. https://www.debka.com/us-b-52-bomber-missions-escorted-by-israel-saudi-qatar-warplanes/ I read somewhere that the Israelis had flown some F-35 over Iran and not been detected! https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/israels-f-35s-are-making-mockery-irans-air-defenses-maybe-149461 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm still waiting for this massive inflation you guys said Obama was going to cause. Remind me what exactly “you guys” said? As far as now, Just look at the bond market if you understand what that means and how its connected. It’s literally making the point. Also, 1.9 trillion dollars equates to $6,000 for every man woman and child somehow results in $1400 checks for some of the population? it’s just a sham fed spending grab and a bunch of pork nothing to do with covid. The party that controls your mind is even worse than the other fiscally irresponsible one at spending my money and my children’s future down the drain. Edited March 8, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/asia/china-hong-kong-election-reform-intl-hnk/index.html pay attention. PRC just unanimously ‘reformed’ Hong Kong’s election process. Interesting PRC waited until after the new administration to make the move. What must they know? Edited March 12, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1
ALF Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/asia/china-hong-kong-election-reform-intl-hnk/index.html pay attention. PRC just unanimously ‘reformed’ Hong Kong’s election process. Interesting PRC waited until after the new administration to make the move. What must they know? US says electoral changes in Hong Kong ‘assault on democracy’ US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has condemned China’s approval of sweeping changes to Hong Kong’s electoral system, calling the move an “assault on democracy” and a “direct attack” on the autonomy promised for the territory when it was returned to Chinese sovereignty in 1997. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/12/us-says-electoral-changes-in-hong-kong-an-assault-on-democracy 2
snafu Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, ALF said: US says electoral changes in Hong Kong ‘assault on democracy’ US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has condemned China’s approval of sweeping changes to Hong Kong’s electoral system, calling the move an “assault on democracy” and a “direct attack” on the autonomy promised for the territory when it was returned to Chinese sovereignty in 1997. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/12/us-says-electoral-changes-in-hong-kong-an-assault-on-democracy Well now. That’ll make them think twice about breaking ignoring international agreements and stomping on individual rights next time. I think China doesn’t care much about assaults on democracy or attacks on autonomy. They’ll give us another example in Taiwan right after the 2022 olympics.
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, snafu said: Well now. That’ll make them think twice about breaking ignoring international agreements and stomping on individual rights next time. I think China doesn’t care much about assaults on democracy or attacks on autonomy. They’ll give us another example in Taiwan right after the 2022 olympics. I'm not sure why the US would object to anything China is doing as their government seems to be the operating model our government aspires to. Creating a surveillance and thought control state through the melding of government force and coercion with technology oligarchs and the corporations they control. But aside from that China is simply not afraid of the US anymore. What are "we" going to do? Impose sanctions? I'm sure Pres Xi isn't spending many sleepless nights worried about that prospect. Diplomatically our state department's approach to international affairs is consistent with the "gun boat" policies of past eras. Look at the number of places where force is either being directly applied or threatened. The problem is the world has changed and while I question China's motives as less than transparent and genuine their more "cooperative" economic development approach to affairs is leading to a lot of arrangements around the world that are slowly squeezing the US out of a lot of places.
ALF Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, snafu said: Well now. That’ll make them think twice about breaking ignoring international agreements and stomping on individual rights next time. I think China doesn’t care much about assaults on democracy or attacks on autonomy. They’ll give us another example in Taiwan right after the 2022 olympics. That's a very good point . The US and Allies have to plan now how to protect Taiwan at all costs. Hong Kong should be enough to convince everyone China will not stop there.
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, ALF said: That's a very good point . The US and Allies have to plan now how to protect Taiwan at all costs. Hong Kong should be enough to convince everyone China will not stop there. Of course China will not stop at objectives aimed at Taiwan and Hong Kong. They have greater ambitions. But what does it mean to protect Taiwan alt all costs? All costs? Such as committing to military action? Engaging is an armed confrontation with China? Perhaps starting World War 3? And what consequences, risks, and threats will such a policy of "all costs" present? Beyond some vague China containment policy it might make sense to have some clear and credible articulation of US strategic interests from the administration before committing to some "at all costs" program.
ALF Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Of course China will not stop at objectives aimed at Taiwan and Hong Kong. They have greater ambitions. But what does it mean to protect Taiwan alt all costs? All costs? Such as committing to military action? Engaging is an armed confrontation with China? Perhaps starting World War 3? And what consequences, risks, and threats will such a policy of "all costs" present? Beyond some vague China containment policy it might make sense to have some clear and credible articulation of US strategic interests from the administration before committing to some "at all costs" program. That's why planning now to see if it is possible to stop China or would the cost be too high. WW 3 would be a cost too high of course. I'm thinking economic not military action by the world. Isolation , no foreign students to any other country or tourists. China surpassed the United States in annual gross crude oil imports in 2017, importing 8.4 million barrels per day (b/d) Together, five of China's leading crude petroleum suppliers (Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iraq, Angola plus Brazil) generate well over half (59.3%) of overall Chinese crude oil imports for 2019. China's top 10 crude petroleum providers supply approximately four-fifths (79.3%) of its imported crude oil If the world could shut down all imports to China ? If a hypothetical plan won't work then Taiwan is gone. Then scale that back to at least make it not business as usual. Edited March 12, 2021 by ALF
reddogblitz Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, ALF said: That's why planning now to see if it is possible to stop China or would the cost be too high. WW 3 would be a cost too high of course. I'm thinking economic not military action by the world. Isolation , no foreign students to any other country or tourists. This sounds like a travel ban which is racist and xenophobic.
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