Would the Bills have beaten the Bucs?

[Cygnus99]

We would have gotten beaten , next season 2021 Yes we will most likely win the division and end up being 11-5 to 13-3 but I am 99 % sure the one of the L  will be at Tampa unless Brady has an off day or a meaningless game in the season's finale 

[BillsFan1988]

32 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The Chiefs O line which is usually quite good was terrible because it was reshuffled when Fisher got hurt against the Bills.  The Chiefs with their regular O line would have been a far more formidable opponent.  Mahomes isn't superman -- he needs reasonable protection to be effective.  All that blitzing that TB did would have left them exposed to Mahomes' passing and Kelce's quick moves to get open, if Mahomes had just had a little more time.

 

The question is, would the Bills, who had their entire team intact including a good O line, have been more effective against TB than the Chiefs, with their terrible O line, were today?  I have to figure, yes.

 

Also, the refs decided to penalize the Chiefs' DBs for doing to the Bucs exactly what they did to the Bills' receivers.  Holding, hitting them downfield, etc.  Diggs struggled to get open and that's just because the Chiefs were, essentially, cheating.  I think the Bills passing game, with their good O line, would have been very effective against TB's defense, which wasn't cheating.

 

Could the Bills D have stopped the Bucs offense?  Well, no, no one can the way they're playing.  But the Bills would have been facing mere mortals instead of Marvel characters like Tyreek Hill.  And so the Bills D would have kept us in the game.

 

There is NO WAY TB would blow out the Bills like they did the Chiefs.

The inconsistent officiating is the most fustrating thing about yesterday gm as opposed to when the Bills played the Chiefs. 

 

One can only wonder is this done by purpose or not. Tony Romo was talking about the Chiefs holding as if it was known thing if that's the case the refs should call as they see it . To me inconsistencies like this are done by purpose the NFL fully knows what teams want to do . They also want to steer the story lines in there favor. 

 

I believe if the Bills are too ever win a Superbowl were gonna have to be heads and shoulders better then our opponents in the playoffs . We need a difference making running back and we also need to blow up our edges on our Defense. I would cut Hughes, Jefferson, Star , Addison & Butler these guys collectively make over 35mil per season and there not worth it. 

 

Build around Phillips and Oliver at the tackle spots. Get us some speed rushers. We need a 3rd down specialist to rotate with Epenesa on the left side and we need speed to power guy at the RE . 

[JaCrispy]

Hard to say, but I will lean “no” because of how balanced the Bucs are...

[machine gun kelly]

It’s too difficult to tell as we don’t know what we are adding and losing, nor what they will win or lose in talent.

 

Here are some of the Unrestricted Free Agents for 2021 for the Bucs.

 

Barrett

David

Gronk

Suh

Fournette

AB

They have $38.144 mil. in space so it’s almost a lock they figure out some of these guys, but they are not per the people down here going after more talent as their cap can’t afford it.  Some have differing opinions on BA, but I like him.  My middle son besides the Bills and Bucs was a big AZ fan.  I saw BA get the most out of Big Ben, then when thrust into the head coaching job in Indy turn that team around after the Manning injury and helped develop Luck.  He then went to AZ and turn that team around from 5-11 prior to him, to a 10-11 win all but one year in AZ.  
 

Anything is possible so I’m rooting for the Bills, but the Bucs are the most complete team in the NFL now.  They are a good passing team, can be good on the ground, and everyone saw what the defense can do last night.  The Bucs as constructed are extremely well built.

 

 

[wjag]

I think the Bills would have been beaten soundly by the Bucs. Their D line was so dominant. They were in the backfield on every play.  Kudos to them.  They were stacked and played like it.  

[Xwnyer]

No we would have little pass rush, played soft zone and got smoked by the TEs.  May not be a record of flags flying in first half however

[SirAndrew]

No, and I’m almost happy we didn’t have to witness it. Getting beating by Brady and the refs would have been a brutal way to lose our fifth Super Bowl. KC didn’t play well, but there was a lot to overcome with the way that game was officiated. 

Edited February 8, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Nihilarian]

I'd say no! After watching what the Bucs did to Aaron Rodgers and the 13-3 Green bay Packers.

 

The Packers had a very balanced attack all season and in that NFC Championship game they ran 16 times for 67 yards. Meanwhile Rodgers 33 of 48 for 346, 3 TDs, 1 INT. 

 

While it would look like Rodgers had a good game he was sacked 5x and hurried, harassed all game. 

 

Tampa even lost ToP 34:37 to 25:23 and yards 275 to 314. Tampa even had more turnovers as Brady threw 3x INTs. 

 

It was the Bucs defense able to hold that Packers offense to field goals. 

 

 

 

QB Blane Gabbert now has a SB ring 🤣

[Steptide]

Honestly, no, and part of me is glad the bills bills didn't lose to Brady in the superbowl. That might be a wound that would never heal 

[Gugny]

The way McDermott coaches in the post season?  Ha.  No.  Bills would have gotten bludgeoned.  

[SCBills]

I don’t know that we would beat them, but I think we would’ve had a better chance.  
 

Our defense likely plays better than KC’s did once the refs started calling them on all the holding in the secondary.  
 

Our offense would’ve needed an all-time great game from Allen and the WR’s, considering how one dimensional we were, BUT our offensive line probably holds up better than KC’s minus Fisher. 

[FieldGeneral]

Nope. Their DL is fast and create havok. We wouldn't have been able to run the ball either. 

[RunTheBall]

It’s hard to say because we can’t know if that TB team which dominated KC plays the same against us with different match-ups. My gut tells me we don’t have the front 7 to pressure Brady consistently and he would have carved us up. The TB MLB White is everything we want Edmunds to be. A fast, disruptive, playmaking MLB. I loved the Edmunds pick but he needs to show up next year and start making some impact plays or we need to move him or move on.

 

So what’s the explanation for the refs FINALLY calling the KC DBs for raping receivers all game long? They have been doing it all year to the point that its embedded in their defensive game plan. The Bills fan in me wants to say its because he was playing the GOAT and Brady always gets the flags. Maybe Arians called the refs everyday before the game and said “Hey, KC holds every defensive play all over the field, do something”.

 

Anyway, I never thought I’d say it but I found myself rooting against KC (not necessarily for the Bucs) because they and their fans are such a bunch of douche bags. It’s not because we lost to them, they were the better team, I just don’t like the arrogance. Plus, I loved the thought of Belichick watching his legacy get crapped on by Tom because the narrative is definitely shifting towards “It was more Brady than Belichick”

 

I loved Brady getting in Mathieus face, and loved Winfield Junior taunting Hill after the 4th down. What a bunch of punks those guys are. I’ll always hate NE most but KC is rapidly becoming a favorite team to hate.

[UKBillFan]

Going back to the opening question - no.

[Billzgobowlin]

4 hours ago, Utah John said:

The Chiefs O line which is usually quite good was terrible because it was reshuffled when Fisher got hurt against the Bills.  The Chiefs with their regular O line would have been a far more formidable opponent.  Mahomes isn't superman -- he needs reasonable protection to be effective.  All that blitzing that TB did would have left them exposed to Mahomes' passing and Kelce's quick moves to get open, if Mahomes had just had a little more time.

 

The question is, would the Bills, who had their entire team intact including a good O line, have been more effective against TB than the Chiefs, with their terrible O line, were today?  I have to figure, yes.

 

Also, the refs decided to penalize the Chiefs' DBs for doing to the Bucs exactly what they did to the Bills' receivers.  Holding, hitting them downfield, etc.  Diggs struggled to get open and that's just because the Chiefs were, essentially, cheating.  I think the Bills passing game, with their good O line, would have been very effective against TB's defense, which wasn't cheating.

 

Could the Bills D have stopped the Bucs offense?  Well, no, no one can the way they're playing.  But the Bills would have been facing mere mortals instead of Marvel characters like Tyreek Hill.  And so the Bills D would have kept us in the game.

 

There is NO WAY TB would blow out the Bills like they did the Chiefs.

I heard that excuse all game.  They have been playing a while with their missing tackles and it was never a excuse till now.  Plus does the mean we can suggest that missing Star would have made a difference for us and that's why we lost?  

[colin]

well, looking at that game and how the bills played really the whole playoffs, my gut is no.

 

the bills match up better w tb than we do w KC, and better than how the KC team we saw last night matches up.  We are far stronger on the edges in pass protection, and TBs sick run d would impact us less since we basically only run w josh. 

 

assuming our WRs would have gotten a bit healthier, i think we score a few touchdowns.  kc's dirty tricks didn't work without the home cooking last night.

 

on the other side, i think our d scheme vs kc was horrible, and the bills would have played a much more confident game vs TB.  i think it would have been similar to the Indy game for the d, where they play solid most of the time, but would get trucked a couple times too.

 

mahomes clearly can't do what allen does, allen scrambles and makes plays more than any other qb i've ever seen, so i think we woulda had a shot, but not a great one.

[prissythecat]

4 hours ago, Utah John said:

The Chiefs O line which is usually quite good was terrible because it was reshuffled when Fisher got hurt against the Bills.  The Chiefs with their regular O line would have been a far more formidable opponent.  Mahomes isn't superman -- he needs reasonable protection to be effective.  All that blitzing that TB did would have left them exposed to Mahomes' passing and Kelce's quick moves to get open, if Mahomes had just had a little more time.

 

The question is, would the Bills, who had their entire team intact including a good O line, have been more effective against TB than the Chiefs, with their terrible O line, were today?  I have to figure, yes.

 

Also, the refs decided to penalize the Chiefs' DBs for doing to the Bucs exactly what they did to the Bills' receivers.  Holding, hitting them downfield, etc.  Diggs struggled to get open and that's just because the Chiefs were, essentially, cheating.  I think the Bills passing game, with their good O line, would have been very effective against TB's defense, which wasn't cheating.

 

Could the Bills D have stopped the Bucs offense?  Well, no, no one can the way they're playing.  But the Bills would have been facing mere mortals instead of Marvel characters like Tyreek Hill.  And so the Bills D would have kept us in the game.

 

There is NO WAY TB would blow out the Bills like they did the Chiefs.

Tampa Bay only blitzed Mahomes five times.  No need to be blitz happy when KCs oline was overmatched .

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl-playoffs/2021/2/8/22271957/winners-and-losers-super-bowl-lv-tom-brady-patrick-mahomes-buccaneers-chiefs

 

[HOUSE]

When Tom Brady is 64

[Captain Hindsight]

McDermott always seemed to have a good plan vs Brady, but that front 4 was nasty. Josh would have been running for his life

[nickrage]

I don’t think anyone was beating Tampa Bay last night.