Super Bowl Game Thread: Kansas City at Tampa Bay 6:30 Eastern on CBS

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Ray Stonada said:

 

Might not be a fair comparison: the Bills weren't missing both tackles, and TB's D-line is better than KC's.  

pressure is pressure

[BananaB]

The longest few hours of my life. Nice to see Sugar Rush Mahommes to show up

[Success]

Anyone else feel worse about Gronk winning another (and playing really well) than Brady?

 

I just don't like Brady because he beat the Bills for 20 years. Gronk had one of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen in the NFL, against one of my favorite Bills.  Never like seeing that guy celebrate, or be celebrated.

 

[dakrider]

Brady is getting all the credit but the credit has to go to Tampa defense, keeping KC out of the end zone?  That is the story of the game.  

[BaaadThingsMan]

1 minute ago, ALF said:

The Bills need to study the Tampa defense against KC , they did a great job. 

Yeah. Sign David asap too!!

Lavonte David shut Kelce down most of the game. I think he intimidated Kelce early. Kelce did make some catches but everything was contested till later on in garbage time.

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

 

Might not be a fair comparison: the Bills weren't missing both tackles, and TB's D-line is better than KC's.  

 

What difference does that make? I am talking about how the QBs were under pressure. Not why. That is irrelevant to both of them facing the same type of pressure. One did a decent job and one did a terrible job.

[Bing Bong]

1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

pressure is pressure

Mahomes had more of it.

 

JA's was less pass rush. Better opposing secondary. Most of his pressure was because he had to hold the ball so long for his WRs

[Ya Digg?]

4 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Putting aside my hate for Brady I gotta congratulate Arians and the other players not named Gronk on the Bucs. They deserved the win tonight, in the end. Don't think i'll ever be convinced they didn't get a boost by the refs, ie> the NFL in the first half though. 

There was literally not a single bad call by the refs in the first half. Each KC penalty was blatant and an easy call for them to make 

[BaaadThingsMan]

Also...wth with the defense limiting Hill so much? The Bills let him waltz all over the field?? Shows it can be done wth Frazier?

[syhuang]

 

[y2zipper]

1 minute ago, Success said:

 

Everyone was downplaying losing 2 starting tackles a bit much. 

 

Against the Bucs line? That's pretty devastating.  Too much to overcome, and it showed on the field. Mahomes was never comfortable.

 

 

Especially considering that Fisher got hurt in the 4th quarter in the AFC Title game. The KC line becomes like a new line that has never played together when the second tackle goes down and it turned out to be the whole game.

 

 

[Ray Stonada]

4 minutes ago, Success said:

Anyone else feel worse about Gronk winning another (and playing really well) than Brady?

 

I just don't like Brady because he beat the Bills for 20 years. Gronk had one of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen in the NFL, against one of my favorite Bills.  Never like seeing that guy celebrate, or be celebrated.

 

 

Agree. Sometimes I forget about it and just see Gronk, and then I remember suddenly and get mad again about it. One of the toughest replays to watch, the way he loads up on a defenseless Tre with glee. Sick and cowardly.

 

 

[BaaadThingsMan]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

There was literally not a single bad call by the refs in the first half. Each KC penalty was blatant and an easy call for them to make 

I dont agree. At the very least the Bucs benefited from pointing out the "sticky" coverage vs the Bills and alerting the refs to watch out for certain things but a Brady led team got all the calls, i'm not surprised. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Also...wth with the defense limiting Hill so much? The Bills let him waltz all over the field?? Shows it can be done wth Frazier?

the chiefs offensive coaches got totally Schooled. They didn’t adjust at all to the Bucs 2-high coverage.

When we did the same thing, the chiefs either ran the ball really well, or got the ball to Hill in space about 7-8 years out and he got a ton of RAC. 

[The Frankish Reich]

17 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Only 2 weeks after we were exposed as the same.

 

It was like watching a mirror of that game tonight.  Weird deja vu.  Mahomes even had 20-30 yard sprinting backwards dropbacks.

 

 

That's right.

Remember the Moneyball line from Billy Beane? "My [crap] doesn't work in the playoffs."

With a couple notable exceptions (the Kurt Warner Greatest Show on Turf Rams and last year's Chiefs) the track meet style of offense seems to be subject to the Beane rule. Even the Peyton Manning record breaking offenses flopped; it was only the defense-dominant Broncos of 2015 that were able to win when Manning was just a shell of himself.

[Ray Stonada]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the chiefs offensive coaches got totally Schooled. They didn’t adjust at all to the Bucs 2-high coverage.

When we did the same thing, the chiefs either ran the ball really well, or got the ball to Hill in space about 7-8 years out and he got a ton of RAC. 

 

And Mahomes looked slightly tight going against Brady, the way Josh looked a little tight going against Mahomes.

[BaaadThingsMan]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the chiefs offensive coaches got totally Schooled. They didn’t adjust at all to the Bucs 2-high coverage.

When we did the same thing, the chiefs either ran the ball really well, or got the ball to Hill in space about 7-8 years out and he got a ton of RAC. 

Reid just said, I wasn't expecting it..I donno what but he wasn't expecting it

[mannc]

I’m not sure if I’m more shocked by Pat Mahomes showing up tonight as Nick Mullens or Vince Lombardi coming back to life as Herm Edwards...

[stevestojan]

I think this Brady kid might have some potential. 

[Rico]