GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: how is ray ray mcloud a miss? 6rd pick and this yr was one of the best returners in the League. Thats a hit to me Well if he backs it up next year with a solid year then I'll be sure to upgrade him. But through two years he had been cut three times. He did have a nice year as a returner in 2020... you need more than 1 year of that for me to consider you a draft hit. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Posts from 2016: Was the 2014 draft the best Bills draft ever? Everyone is a contributor! Josh Allen will be 25 at the start of next season. What does that have to do with anything? Are we about to ship him off to the glue factory It means he has 2 more years NFL experience and he's a year younger. He's a very young player coming up on his 4th year.
FireChans Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It means he has 2 more years NFL experience and he's a year younger. He's a very young player coming up on his 4th year. So, in your opinion, a player with 2 years of college experience starting, and 10 games of NFL experience, who is 24 has less room to grow than a 3 year starter in college and 3 years of NFL years of NFL experience who is about to be 23?
Royale with Cheese Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, FireChans said: So, in your opinion, a player with 2 years of college experience starting, and 10 games of NFL experience, who is 24 has less room to grow than a 3 year starter in college and 3 years of NFL years of NFL experience who is about to be 23? No that's not what the point was at all. It was just a comparison to show how young Edmunds really is. That's it.
FireChans Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: No that's not what the point was at all. It was just a comparison to show how young Edmunds really is. That's it. But does age really matter relative to playing time? If Edmunds was 25, would it really matter?
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 I'm a huge critic of Edmunds but he is a 3 year starter so it's fair to say he is a hit. Is he a star? No. I actually think he is a very poor MLB, but there are other first rounders that wash out of the league in three years or never start. Any draft that brings a HOF talent is far better than 2018 or any draft regardless of the rest of the draftees. Only time will tell on 2018.
RyanC883 Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Other than trading up for Edmunds, Harrison Phillips being on the bubble all year....... big stretch to say EVERY pick. Regardless of how you feel on Edmunds, no he hasnt lived up to his draft selection trading up for Leonard would have been better, IMO. overall, a very good draft. every pick is currently contributing, here or somewhere else. The headline pick in J. Allen was fantastic. t
ngbills Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Hard to compare drafts from different years. Every year a team has different needs. I think the fairest way would be to simply look at the quantity of players that succeed vs we picked Allen its obviously the best. So along those lines... 2018: Two potential career starters in Allen and Edmunds. 3-5rd is three potential contributors. 6-7 is nothing. Even looking at just 2019 - Oliver, Ford, Singletary and Know are 4 potential long term starters. Maybe not as set in stone as Allen/Edmunds. Plus the Johnsons in 6-7. Bottom line hard to ever say best. But you can say good or bed. The past few years have been good in that we have players that are contributing.
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Beast said: LMAO. You better check out the 1974 Pittsburgh Steelers draft, Junior. In fact, the 2018 draft doesn't hold a candle to the Bills 1985 draft. Agreed there are plenty of other drafts that were better. Throughout Bills and NFL history. But man, tough to compare modern drafts with those older drafts. The 1985 draft was 12 rounds! Bills had the 1st pick, and 17 total picks! Frank Reich was the first pick of the 3rd round, and he was our 5th player taken! GMs today would kill to have that many chances.
Beast Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Agreed there are plenty of other drafts that were better. Throughout Bills and NFL history. But man, tough to compare modern drafts with those older drafts. The 1985 draft was 12 rounds! Bills had the 1st pick, and 17 total picks! Frank Reich was the first pick of the 3rd round, and he was our 5th player taken! GMs today would kill to have that many chances. The Pittsburgh Steelers drafted 4 Hall of Famers in the first five rounds. GM's today get their pick of anyone they wish after seven rounds. They just have to beat other out to get to their target. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 3 hours ago, FireChans said: But does age really matter relative to playing time? If Edmunds was 25, would it really matter? I think you’re over complicating this. 1
FireChans Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think you’re over complicating this. You didn’t answer. How is the age relevant in your opinion?
The Jokeman Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 8 hours ago, dbfla10 said: Is the 2018 draft the best draft in Bills history, possibly NFL? Beane hit on every single player drafted(Prohl). Yeah two Hall of Famers from the 1985 class may debate this point. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2010/4/20/1428969/the-best-draft-in-bills-history-25
Royale with Cheese Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 3 hours ago, FireChans said: You didn’t answer. How is the age relevant in your opinion? Dude, it was simply a comparison to show he’s young. He wasn’t trying to say Edmunds has more growth potential. Its just he’s young and has room. Its just a statement a 3 year guy is 2 years younger than a 1 year guy.... You massively over complicated his simple statement. 1
FireChans Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Dude, it was simply a comparison to show he’s young. He wasn’t trying to say Edmunds has more growth potential. Its just he’s young and has room. Its just a statement a 3 year guy is 2 years younger than a 1 year guy.... You massively over complicated his simple statement. I’m younger than Tom Brady. What does this matter?
Royale with Cheese Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: I’m younger than Tom Brady. What does this matter? Geezus dude... 1 1
Rico Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 8 hours ago, FireChans said: Posts from 2016: Was the 2014 draft the best Bills draft ever? Everyone is a contributor! Well, Ross Cockrell (hidden Whaley gem) may just get a ring on Sunday.. and if he doesn't, Sammy will get another. Not too shabby! 1
FireChans Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rico said: Well, Ross Cockrell (hidden Whaley gem) may just get a ring on Sunday.. and if he doesn't, Sammy will get another. Not too shabby! If only "basically a first-rounder" Reggie Ragnuts was still on the Chiefs.
T master Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 I was kind of caught off guard (no pun intended) when they traded Teller to the Browns he seemed to be a Bills type player the blue color type and now that all the what to do at guard position is going on it's sad that we had him in the building and traded him but i'm glad he's doing well but boy that would have been a nice player to have on the team going forward !!
DrDawkinstein Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 5:08 PM, Beast said: The Pittsburgh Steelers drafted 4 Hall of Famers in the first five rounds. GM's today get their pick of anyone they wish after seven rounds. They just have to beat other out to get to their target. Kinda the opposite, really. After the draft, the UDFAs end up in a better situation where they have a say and get to pick where they go. We lost out on a couple of UDFAs just last year.
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