section122 Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Why do you say it costs next to nothing? The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation. Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise. He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively. So this decision is not as easy as it seems. I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman. I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount. If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go. I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M Spot on. I think he takes way more flak than he deserves. As the Bills start paying people (which has already begun) wallace and players like him will become even more important to the sustained success of the Bills. He way outperformed being a udfa and 3 million is half of what norman got this year. No brainer imo. If they were to get 4 years production and a 2nd rounder that's also a win. 1
Richard Noggin Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 Just gotta keep him from being isolated on big, physical receivers too often. That's where he gets picked on. In general, he's an effective corner in McFrazier's scheme.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 One bye product of a pretty deep playoff run is very little time left to be bored before the next NFL calendar season begins. 1 1
BuffaloRebound Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 He needs to be upgraded but $3.2m for 1 year is almost a no brainer. Somebody will sign him if we original round tender him which means no draft compensation since he was an UDFA. Can never have too many CB’s. 1
JGMcD2 Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Why do you say it costs next to nothing? The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation. Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise. He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively. So this decision is not as easy as it seems. I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman. I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount. If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go. I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M I said next to nothing, because relatively inexpensive. It’s not quite nothing but it’s next to it. Original round tender and right of first refusal tender cost you the same amount, they operate identically if the player is a UDFA. The minimum salary a player who has 3 years of service time can make is $825K. We’re going to likely pay him 150% more. If you want a similar caliber player in FA you’re paying Josh Norman money or more... it’s next to nothing in comparison to that as well. If memory serves me properly, teams don’t hand out 1st and 2nd round tenders too often and teams generally don’t pursue players with any level of tender. I believe Kareem Hunt received a 2nd round tender last year and no team gave him an offer sheet. EDIT: Looked a little deeper and my old memory was wrong, some of the better players normally get a RD2 tender. Hunt, Feiler, Hilton did last year. Nobody matched. If that’s all it takes to ensure Wallace stays for relatively cheap, I’m all for the RD2 tender. Good call. Edited February 4, 2021 by JGMcD2 2
mushypeaches Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 Give Levi the 2nd round tender. He's been a good to above average player who's totally out-performed his original undrafted status At the very worst, he's quality depth for us in the years to come, and the kind of guy that has a really low downside to keeping around
wvbillsfan Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 I’d sign him but he’s going to get minimum 5 mil a year 1
Nester Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 I think we need to improve the cb2 spot this year. he is going to want/need like $3mm. I am torn
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Author Posted February 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nester said: I think we need to improve the cb2 spot this year. he is going to want/need like $3mm. I am torn This was floated today 1
Billl Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: This was floated today That’d be a hell of a secondary. Still think Wallace would be worth retaining even if Beane added Rhodes if you can get him for $3mm AAV or so. 1
AmishRifle Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 I love me some Levi Wallace. Get ‘er done Beane!
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 Bring him back as “The Vet”. Draft a guy in mid to late rounds with high upside from maybe a smaller school or slides due to an injury in college you think won’t be lingering. Let Levi, Dane, and rookie battle for CB2.
Dkollidas Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 He’ll be back on an RFA tender or a short term extension. And that’s the right move. He’ll compete with Dane Jackson for playing time at CB2. A lot of people want a big name there, I’m fine with a guy at CB2. Spend your assets elsewhere (pass rusher) and better (also pass rusher bc they paid big and got little production for the money they spent) 1 1
Bob in STL Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) He played well once he started to get some series off in favor of Norman. I think we should upgrade him, but keep him as #3CB. They both did better splitting the job than either did playing full time. Overall he did better than Norman (although Norman made a few real big plays). Dane will get a bigger shot next year as well. Edited February 4, 2021 by Bob in STL
BeastMaster Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 Makes no sense to create a hole if we can keep him at a low salary. 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Going to list a new UFA or RFA every day or so ... Levi Wallace is a RFA in 2021. He will be 26 and has started 23 games in 2 seasons. The new league year begins at 4 p.m. March 17. The deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets is April 23. I think you need to add options for which tender the Bills should offer him 1st round 2nd round or Original (he was an UDFA) I'm leaning towards 2nd round but we don't know yet what $$ that will be. An Original round tender should be ~$2.2M, 2nd round maybe $3.4M
Putin Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 We need to re-sign him but I would definitely bring in some competition and Dane Jackson should be a part of it
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 Is the mean U.K. lady from 'The Weakest Link' still around? She can emcee 'Re-sign or Resign!'.
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 I wouldn’t mind him here for competition and see if he makes it. I don’t see a reason why not let him compete with Dane and others to see who is the best.
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