The Jokeman Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 2:04 AM, billsfan89 said: How so? Expand Some see the second 1st was to take Goff's contract 1
Cheektowaga Chad Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 What team would in their right mind give up 2 number 1s for Carr? That stupidity is up there with the bills trading a 1st because Rob Johnson looked good in 1 game or the seahawks paying Matt Flynn 60 million because of 1 game in a week 17 meaningless match up 1
NoSaint Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 12:39 AM, BuffaloRebound said: If I were a team in need of a QB, I’d actually go after Mariota over Carr. Expand You would remain a team in need of a qb 2
Cheektowaga Chad Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 2:07 AM, prissythecat said: Not too long ago a number of folks here considered Carr a stud. Expand John skelton was a stud around these parts as well 1
97bills Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 12:38 AM, Warcodered said: Mahomes, Watson, and Herbert all in the same division....yes please? Expand At least we got firepower to fight back think of all those years going to battle with T.T or jp losman against Brady lol
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 2:29 AM, Billl said: Nobody’s giving up one first rounder for Carr let alone two. The guy is just good enough to not get a top draft pick but not good enough to make the playoffs. Expand LOL without really wanting to debate the QB prowess of Derek Carr, does anyone else here enjoy Antiques Roadshow? I kind of feel the aftermath of the Stafford trade is like that show proclaiming some unassuming old vase is actually worth big $$. Everyone watching the show starts thinking "Hmmmm, I got a vase looks pretty much like that, wonder what it's really worth?" and looks about for an appraiser. I think Mayock be all "sheee it, if Detroit can get two firsts and a third for that 33 year old 12-year vet coming off 2 years of broken vertebrae, wonder what my under-30 QB with just 7 years wear-n-tear really worth?" Stop the Tulip Mania 2 3
97bills Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 3:09 AM, Cheektowaga Chad said: What team would in their right mind give up 2 number 1s for Carr? That stupidity is up there with the bills trading a 1st because Rob Johnson looked good in 1 game or the seahawks paying Matt Flynn 60 million because of 1 game in a week 17 meaningless match up Expand There lucky Wilson turned out after that Flynn money boy that brings back memories that was so dumb dude did absolutely nothing after that. 1
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) On 2/3/2021 at 3:31 AM, 97bills said: There lucky Wilson turned out after that Flynn money boy that brings back memories that was so dumb dude did absolutely nothing after that. Expand Didn’t Matt Flynn sign with the bills at one point or am I misremembering my Matts Edited February 3, 2021 by YoloinOhio
97bills Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 3:33 AM, YoloinOhio said: Didn’t matter Flynn sign with the bills at one point or am I misremembering my Matts Expand I think he did for a hot minute
Coach Tuesday Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 2:04 AM, billsfan89 said: How so? Expand First of all the first round picks were not this year's - they were 2022 and 2023. So they're already worth less than 1st rounders in 2021. And one of the two firsts was clearly an exchange for taking on Goff's contract. The Lions got a 1st and a 3rd in "real" value for Stafford, and another 1st for the Goff contract, as I see it. 1
97bills Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 1:34 AM, y2zipper said: I would like whatever the Mariota is better than car crowd is smoking because that take is objectively terrible. I think it's going to take five or six first to get Watson and the reason why Carr doesn't just get moved for him is because Houston wants draft picks as opposed to players. Stafford just moved for two first round picks and Carr is better than Stafford and 3 years younger. Two first round picks for Carris a deal that makes sense if your Chicago or if your San Francisco and you are currently looking to upgrade that position. That deal is in realistic for the Broncos because they're in the same division. Expand Boy I think he would be great with 49ers 1
whatdrought Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 I mean, yeah. I’m sure he is. Just like he’s a top 15 offensive player in this league according to.... *checks articles* David Carr.....
Billl Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) On 2/3/2021 at 3:30 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: LOL without really wanting to debate the QB prowess of Derek Carr, does anyone else here enjoy Antiques Roadshow? I kind of feel the aftermath of the Stafford trade is like that show proclaiming some unassuming old vase is actually worth big $$. Everyone watching the show starts thinking "Hmmmm, I got a vase looks pretty much like that, wonder what it's really worth?" and looks about for an appraiser. I think Mayock be all "sheee it, if Detroit can get two firsts and a third for that 33 year old 12-year vet coming off 2 years of broken vertebrae, wonder what my under-30 QB with just 7 years wear-n-tear really worth?" Stop the Tulip Mania Expand I’ll admit, I had no idea where you were going with the Antiques Roadshow thing, but I’ll be damned if it didn’t turn into a solid analogy. On 2/3/2021 at 3:31 AM, 97bills said: There lucky Wilson turned out after that Flynn money boy that brings back memories that was so dumb dude did absolutely nothing after that. Expand Also well said. Edited February 3, 2021 by Billl 1
billsherd Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 1:25 AM, Protocal69 said: When the Bills were going through the drought I cant remember a time where quality QB's were available for trade like now. We did trade for Bledsoe but that was it for 15+ years. Go figure Expand That's what I have been thinking. There are actually options available and you don't have to settle for one, that is just crazy.
Augie Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 Jon Gruden never met a QB he didn’t love. .....and hate. 1 1 1
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 12:35 AM, SirAndrew said: I really hope the NFL QB position doesn’t turn into an NBA situation where these guys are always looking for a better situation. Expand Definitely heading that way
Delete_Delete_Delete Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 I could see the Saints throwing their hat into one of these QB trade situations. After whatever drama was going on with Michael Thomas, package him with a 1st, next years 1st and some extra draft capital, plus another salary or two they need to get off the books. Wouldn’t surprise me, Payton isn’t going to want to oversee some long rebuild.
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 3:43 AM, Coach Tuesday said: First of all the first round picks were not this year's - they were 2022 and 2023. So they're already worth less than 1st rounders in 2021. And one of the two firsts was clearly an exchange for taking on Goff's contract. The Lions got a 1st and a 3rd in "real" value for Stafford, and another 1st for the Goff contract, as I see it. Expand I guess you could look at it as one of the firsts are in exchange for taking on Goff's contract. But the Rams are still eating 22 million in dead cap in 2021 as a result of the trade. So it isn't like the trade dumps that much money into their coffers and in fact combining Stafford's 2021 cap number and Goff's dead money in 2021 it will cost the Rams 8 million. The Rams save 14 million in 2022 but I doubt they paid a 1st round pick for a net of 6 million cap dollars over the course of two seasons.
dma0034 Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 I don't think it's a huge move but Carr would play perfect in the Patriots system imo. I don't think it's a huge move but Carr would play perfect in the Patriots system imo. I don't think it's a huge move but Carr would play perfect in the Patriots system imo.
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 3:09 AM, Cheektowaga Chad said: What team would in their right mind give up 2 number 1s for Carr? That stupidity is up there with the bills trading a 1st because Rob Johnson looked good in 1 game or the seahawks paying Matt Flynn 60 million because of 1 game in a week 17 meaningless match up Expand Matt Flynn "only" got 20 million for 3 years with 9 guaranteed from Seattle. A massive overpay but not that tragic.
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