78thealltimegreat Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 That because of COVID some true in their prime stars are going to be on the market this year with teams like the Saints 112 million over the cap for starters much less Eagles, Rams, even the Raiders have major cap issues so waiting to release a veteran till later in the off season because you might be able to get a good player on a 1 year come try to win a ring in Buffalo deal seems like a good strategy 12
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Waller to the Bills confirmed. 4 10 1 1
The Jokeman Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: That because of COVID some true in their prime stars are going to be on the market this year with teams like the Saints 112 million over the cap for starters much less Eagles, Rams, even the Raiders have major cap issues so waiting to release a veteran till later in the off season because you might be able to get a good player on a 1 year come try to win a ring in Buffalo deal seems like a good strategy True especially if other teams are having cap issues some guys may just sign a 1 year deal in hopes to have a big year and get a bigger deal next offseason (see what Taylor Hall did with Sabres). 1
JohnNord Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: That because of COVID some true in their prime stars are going to be on the market this year with teams like the Saints 112 million over the cap for starters much less Eagles, Rams, even the Raiders have major cap issues so waiting to release a veteran till later in the off season because you might be able to get a good player on a 1 year come try to win a ring in Buffalo deal seems like a good strategy Yeah this has been talked about quite a bit. Of course, no one knows what the cap number will be, but if it’s on the lower end teams will be forced to part with some pretty good players....and teams with cap space might be a great place for bargain deals 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 I'm kind of hoping that offensive players look at the Bills thinking they can sign cheap for a year and put up big numbers. Cash in next year. John Brown, Beasley, and Diggs have had career years in Buffalo. I think we should get someone here cheap. 1
ngbills Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 I think the cap will wind up higher than the numbers being thrown around. The $175M is the floor and using this allows for more interesting discussions. It winds up at $200M+ and teams have $25M more in space than all of these talks. I think many players will be willing to restructure if all teams are faced with cap issues. 1
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 There will be ways to relieve cap money in for 2021 season.. Obviously could release some guys like Addison, Jefferson, Butler etc. They can also add a year on to some players deals like Brown, Diggs and move some bonus money around to lesson the hit for 2021. Either way it’s going to be a challenging off season for Beane.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Forget Milano, sign Bobby Wagner after he’s cut for cap savings!! Edited January 27, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1
Shaw66 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: That because of COVID some true in their prime stars are going to be on the market this year with teams like the Saints 112 million over the cap for starters much less Eagles, Rams, even the Raiders have major cap issues so waiting to release a veteran till later in the off season because you might be able to get a good player on a 1 year come try to win a ring in Buffalo deal seems like a good strategy I think this is wrong. Without COVID, the 32 teams were, relative to each other, were in better or worse cap situations going into 2021. Since COVID, relative to one another, they're in the same cap positions. For just about all teams, if they want to make moves, they're going to have cut people to create room to sign rookies and others. New Orleans always was going to have cut players, they just have to cut more. The Bills were going to have to cut players, now they may need to cut more. The real result here is that the players who get cut are going to take big pay cuts. There's no way around it. It sounded in Beane's press conference like Milano is gone. Whenever Beane says "it's a business and he is free to get paid what he can," he usually means we've had a preliminary conversation with his agent, and it that's what he wants, we're not going there. The problem is that this is horrible year to be a free agent, because NO ONE is going to have enough cap space to write contracts like they did last year. Guys on multi-year deals are protected, guys on one-year deals are not. So, yeah, New Orleans or whoever may be letting more players go than the Bills, but if all those players stay in the league, they're going to be paid a lot less than they thought a year ago they'd be getting. But the teams, relative to one another, are still going to be able sign more or less the same number of players. That's an oversimplification. Beane said in his presser that no one should expect the Bills to pick up any high-powered help in free agency. 2
Big Turk Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think this is wrong. Without COVID, the 32 teams were, relative to each other, were in better or worse cap situations going into 2021. Since COVID, relative to one another, they're in the same cap positions. For just about all teams, if they want to make moves, they're going to have cut people to create room to sign rookies and others. New Orleans always was going to have cut players, they just have to cut more. The Bills were going to have to cut players, now they may need to cut more. The real result here is that the players who get cut are going to take big pay cuts. There's no way around it. It sounded in Beane's press conference like Milano is gone. Whenever Beane says "it's a business and he is free to get paid what he can," he usually means we've had a preliminary conversation with his agent, and it that's what he wants, we're not going there. The problem is that this is horrible year to be a free agent, because NO ONE is going to have enough cap space to write contracts like they did last year. Guys on multi-year deals are protected, guys on one-year deals are not. So, yeah, New Orleans or whoever may be letting more players go than the Bills, but if all those players stay in the league, they're going to be paid a lot less than they thought a year ago they'd be getting. But the teams, relative to one another, are still going to be able sign more or less the same number of players. That's an oversimplification. Beane said in his presser that no one should expect the Bills to pick up any high-powered help in free agency. Not necessarily...a team might have been able to do some restructures to clean up cap space up to a certain amount but now will have to cut a plyer or players from the $25 million more they would be over. So one team may still be fine but another may have to release players now. There is only so much cap maneuvering that can be done. I don't see the NFL letting this happen and I think the cap number is probably closer to $200 million regardless of how they have to get there.
eball Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Is this the ultimate "get him on the cheap" thread? 1 2
SoCal Deek Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 I cannot imagine any team being in a better position than the Bills. They have a young core who may be looking to get paid but who aren't entering a market swimming in cash. They also have some veteran under-achievers, who can be cut with zero harm to a now three out of four year playoff team. I'll take where we are.
Figster Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think this is wrong. Without COVID, the 32 teams were, relative to each other, were in better or worse cap situations going into 2021. Since COVID, relative to one another, they're in the same cap positions. For just about all teams, if they want to make moves, they're going to have cut people to create room to sign rookies and others. New Orleans always was going to have cut players, they just have to cut more. The Bills were going to have to cut players, now they may need to cut more. The real result here is that the players who get cut are going to take big pay cuts. There's no way around it. It sounded in Beane's press conference like Milano is gone. Whenever Beane says "it's a business and he is free to get paid what he can," he usually means we've had a preliminary conversation with his agent, and it that's what he wants, we're not going there. The problem is that this is horrible year to be a free agent, because NO ONE is going to have enough cap space to write contracts like they did last year. Guys on multi-year deals are protected, guys on one-year deals are not. So, yeah, New Orleans or whoever may be letting more players go than the Bills, but if all those players stay in the league, they're going to be paid a lot less than they thought a year ago they'd be getting. But the teams, relative to one another, are still going to be able sign more or less the same number of players. That's an oversimplification. Beane said in his presser that no one should expect the Bills to pick up any high-powered help in free agency. Not at all a fan of losing Milano. Its like taking two steps back to go one step forward. Thanks for the insight concerning Covid.
spartacus Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: That because of COVID some true in their prime stars are going to be on the market this year with teams like the Saints 112 million over the cap for starters much less Eagles, Rams, even the Raiders have major cap issues so waiting to release a veteran till later in the off season because you might be able to get a good player on a 1 year come try to win a ring in Buffalo deal seems like a good strategy teams over the cap now can not wait to cut big ticket players moves will need to be made before day 1 to get under the cap also means Bills may make some early moves to enable quick bargain hunting
mushypeaches Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Waller to the Bills confirmed. This would be amazing if we could pull it off
cv05 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 This is bad news for the bills. They are 19th in available cap space compared with other teams. The Bills are going to be more in the group of shedding star players than signing them. The teams that benefit from this are teams with more cap space - Jaguars, Jets, Colts, Patriots, Bengals
Saxum Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: The real result here is that the players who get cut are going to take big pay cuts. There's no way around it. It sounded in Beane's press conference like Milano is gone. Whenever Beane says "it's a business and he is free to get paid what he can," he usually means we've had a preliminary conversation with his agent, and it that's what he wants, we're not going there. The problem is that this is horrible year to be a free agent, because NO ONE is going to have enough cap space to write contracts like they did last year. Guys on multi-year deals are protected, guys on one-year deals are not. Bills probably told his agent "Your floor is too high for us. We want to keep him and we know Milano wants to stay. Check out free agency and come back and talk to us."
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: This would be amazing if we could pull it off Its not going to happen. Lol. Would be amazing yes.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Bob in STL said: In Beane We Trust. Not entirely in spending free agent dollars... Murphy, Addison, Butler, Jefferson, Klein, Norman, Long, and Mantekevich all were quite expensive with little return. Brown, Feliciano, Williams, and Beasley appear to have been worth the investment. Morse is somehwere in between at a super high cost for maybe at best average play. 1 3
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