Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Thoughts on this insane ride with GameStop stock? I am personally in at around $40/share. I am fine losing everything I put into it. I don't gamble with life savings, I gamble with what I can easily lose and not blink an eye over. I absolutely love everything about this. I love how a bunch of "idiot retail" investors can screw over some of the greediest people on the planet. Then they cry about it saying we are manipulating the market like they do on a daily basis. But, everything this is based off of is public knowledge. They put themselves in this position with their greed and not hedging their bets. Now, they are putting out bold faced lies into the media (looking at you CNBC) to stem their bleeding and its not working and its fantastic. Who else is in on this? 4 Quote
Bferra13 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Im not in on it, but if I bought @ $40 a share id be out now. Its like $350 a share now! Quote
T&C Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/business/2021/01/27/in-battle-over-gamestop-shares--two-big-players-flinch AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc., the theater chain that has been ravaged by the pandemic, posted a quarterly loss this month exceeding $900 million. It appears, however, that AMC has become the next battleground in the fight between smaller, retail investors, and Wall Street. Shares of AMC spiked 260% when trading began Wednesday and #SaveAMC is trending on Twitter. Quote
Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, T&C said: https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/business/2021/01/27/in-battle-over-gamestop-shares--two-big-players-flinch AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc., the theater chain that has been ravaged by the pandemic, posted a quarterly loss this month exceeding $900 million. It appears, however, that AMC has become the next battleground in the fight between smaller, retail investors, and Wall Street. Shares of AMC spiked 260% when trading began Wednesday and #SaveAMC is trending on Twitter. This is different and I'm not buying into it. AMC is not shorted over 100% of their stock like Gamestop is/was. This is growing because people want the next GME without the factors leading up to what GME did. They are taking a stock that has long term potential because of them skirting bankruptcy and the inevitable opening back up of the theaters. I'm not touching this one. Gamestop has potential to get in 4 figures if people just hold their shares and wait until the shorts are called in. Just my opinion, I am certainly no financial advisor! Again, stuff like this you should only put in what you are comfortable losing! I have all mutual funds except GME and Blackberry which I got at around $10. Quote
T&C Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mark80 said: This is different and I'm not buying into it. AMC is not shorted over 100% of their stock like Gamestop is/was. This is growing because people want the next GME without the factors leading up to what GME did. They are taking a stock that has long term potential because of them skirting bankruptcy and the inevitable opening back up of the theaters. I'm not touching this one. Gamestop has potential to get in 4 figures if people just hold their shares and wait until the shorts are called in. Just my opinion, I am certainly no financial advisor! Again, stuff like this you should only put in what you are comfortable losing! I have all mutual funds except GME and Blackberry which I got at around $10. The market is absolutely sucking today too, I mean, there is still time but it looks to be a bad one. Quote
Jauronimo Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Mark80 said: Thoughts on this insane ride with GameStop stock? I am personally in at around $40/share. I am fine losing everything I put into it. I don't gamble with life savings, I gamble with what I can easily lose and not blink an eye over. I absolutely love everything about this. I love how a bunch of "idiot retail" investors can screw over some of the greediest people on the planet. Then they cry about it saying we are manipulating the market like they do on a daily basis. But, everything this is based off of is public knowledge. They put themselves in this position with their greed and not hedging their bets. Now, they are putting out bold faced lies into the media (looking at you CNBC) to stem their bleeding and its not working and its fantastic. Who else is in on this? Can't wait to see how the gov't tries to bail out billionaires....again... What do you think is motivating the people who saw an opportunity to engineer a short squeeze by bidding up the price of GME to levels that are completely irrational? Altruism? Its all fun and games for now but a bunch of retail investors are going to get wiped out buying into GME and AMC. Like any pump and dump, your gains are predicated on selling to a greater fool. When GME starts plummeting there will be a race to the exits and you'll need people willing to scoop up shares. The people with big enough positions to actually move the needle in GME know when the music is going to stop, the rest of this army of HODLers are useful idiots to them. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: What do you think is motivating the people who saw an opportunity to engineer a short squeeze by bidding up the price of GME to levels that are completely irrational? Altruism? Its all fun and games for now but a bunch of retail investors are going to get wiped out buying into GME and AMC. Like any pump and dump, your gains are predicated on selling to a greater fool. When GME starts plummeting there will be a race to the exits and you'll need people willing to scoop up shares. The people with big enough positions to actually move the needle in GME know when the music is going to stop, the rest of this army of HODLers are useful idiots to them. Theyre using the same logic as the bitcoin hodlers. To them, it isnt about making money as much as it is screwing the old players and creating a new system. They wanted to bankrupt the hedge fund that was trying to crush the GME stock. And it has worked! They are beating Wall Street at their own game. Anyone who jumped on GME through /wallstreetbets outside of the first few days already knows they'll likely lose money. But this is about principle to them. But all it will take is one whale holder to cash out and it will all come crashing down around them. I have suspected from the start that this was all Deep*****ingValue playing the other WSB users. He will be the first to bail, and make all the money. Rightfully so, since this was all his idea anyways. What will be really interesting will be if the SEC steps in and changes rules to re-rig the system in favor of the big guys again. But man... Melvin received a $2.75BILLION cash bailout on Monday, and poof, it is GONE today. Melvin is not planning on filing bankruptcy next week. Crazy. Edited January 27, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Theyre using the same logic as the bitcoin hodlers. To them, it isnt about making money as much as it is screwing the old players and creating a new system. They are beating Wall Street at their own game. Anyone who jumped on GME through /wallstreetbets outside of the first few days already knows they'll likely lose money. But this is about principle to them. But all it will take is one whale holder to cash out and it will all come crashing down around them. I have suspected from the start that this was all Deep*****ingValue playing the other WSB users. He will be the first to bail, and make all the money. Rightfully so, since this was all his idea anyways. What will be really interesting will be if the SEC steps in and changes rules to re-rig the system in favor of the big guys again. But man... Melvin received a $2.75BILLION cash bailout on Monday, and poof, it is GONE today. Melvin is not planning on filing bankruptcy next week. Crazy. That is whats happening and that couldn't be farther from any principle besides pure greed. Post like OPs and thousands of others are designed only to convince other people to drive up the price high enough to make a better exit. The stock market is still a zero sum game. Short sellers and hedge funds are not the only ones who will be on the hook when the music stops. Every stock with significant short interest is now a target in this scheme. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: That is whats happening and that couldn't be farther from any principle besides pure greed. Has Wall Street ever operated under any other principle? That's what the stock market is all about. Quote
Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: What do you think is motivating the people who saw an opportunity to engineer a short squeeze by bidding up the price of GME to levels that are completely irrational? Altruism? Its all fun and games for now but a bunch of retail investors are going to get wiped out buying into GME and AMC. Like any pump and dump, your gains are predicated on selling to a greater fool. When GME starts plummeting there will be a race to the exits and you'll need people willing to scoop up shares. The people with big enough positions to actually move the needle in GME know when the music is going to stop, the rest of this army of HODLers are useful idiots to them. I feel a large part of the group wants to see those hedge funds go bankrupt and if they make money on it too, great. At least that's where I am. I also believe that there is a HUGE difference between the greed of someone who has billions of dollars already and someone trying to change $1k into $10k, you know? How much is enough for these hedge fund managers? How many companies and their employees do they have to screw over for insane profits which is what short sellers basically do? Absolutely people are going to get hurt here, no doubt. But that is their own fault IMO. They need to understand the high risk / high reward paradigm and only put in what they can lose. Unfortunately, many will put in way more than they can lose and will lose it. No doubt. But, with over 140% shares shorted, if you want to sell you should be able to when its time I think because the short sellers will have no choice but to by them when it expires so they buyers should be there....I hope. 56 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: But all it will take is one whale holder to cash out and it will all come crashing down around them. I have suspected from the start that this was all Deep*****ingValue playing the other WSB users. He will be the first to bail, and make all the money. Rightfully so, since this was all his idea anyways. What will be really interesting will be if the SEC steps in and changes rules to re-rig the system in favor of the big guys again. But man... Melvin received a $2.75BILLION cash bailout on Monday, and poof, it is GONE today. Melvin is not planning on filing bankruptcy next week. Crazy. Yesterday he was still holding after $17M in gains. Dude has had the stock since early 2019. He is now an all-time legend and if I see him sell I'm out too. Edited January 27, 2021 by Mark80 Quote
Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: That is whats happening and that couldn't be farther from any principle besides pure greed. Post like OPs and thousands of others are designed only to convince other people to drive up the price high enough to make a better exit. The stock market is still a zero sum game. Short sellers and hedge funds are not the only ones who will be on the hook when the music stops. Every stock with significant short interest is now a target in this scheme. Absolutely not true at all. I would not recommend anyone buy this stock at this point. Its too late IMO. I would also encourage people to hold at this point because the actual numbers of the situation point to there still being way too many shorts out there. Still, today, this very morning there was 139%!!! But, if you have some better information I would welcome it as to why this is over. Personally, I don't trust for a second what the people who are losing Billions are trying to say or their bought and paid for media pundits or their hackers who shut down reddit and discord at the same time as the dip was happening this afternoon in an attempt to create that panic sell. Unfortunately for them, none of their tricks and lies are working yet. When VW was short squeezed in 2008 there were 7% of their shares shorted. 139% right now for GME, 139! Edited January 27, 2021 by Mark80 Quote
Back2Buff Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Seeing how everyone of what I invest is in tied to my SSN, I will not be participating in Market Manipulation or pumping/dumping. Also, do these dumb people realize this can back fire tremendously. Piss off Wall Street, and they have the resources to pull billions out of market and tank everyone's 401k. All fun and games till the big guy starts swinging. 1 Quote
Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: Seeing how everyone of what I invest is in tied to my SSN, I will not be participating in Market Manipulation or pumping/dumping. Also, do these dumb people realize this can back fire tremendously. Piss off Wall Street, and they have the resources to pull billions out of market and tank everyone's 401k. All fun and games till the big guy starts swinging. Funniest argument to date. What do you think Hedge Funds with Billions upon Billions of assets under their control do? Every single move they make is market manipulation. Every press release about what they are buying and selling. But hey, lets get upset when normal people spot a weakness of these jerks and expose it $1k at a time. So funny. Quote
Jauronimo Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Mark80 said: Absolutely not true at all. I would not recommend anyone buy this stock at this point. Its too late IMO. I would also encourage people to hold at this point because the actual numbers of the situation point to there still being way too many shorts out there. Still, today, this very morning there was 139%!!! So theorizing that this stock can still triple and hit 4 figures is a caution to the people on this board to stay away? Because that sounds like encouraging people to buy. This whole strategy is based on the amount of short interest. Bidding up the price is designed to force shorts to cover or get margin called thus forcing them to buy shares to cover their positions. If no one is selling then the shorts have to sweeten the deal further bidding up prices, forcing more margin calls, bidding up prices, forcing more margin calls, etc. Shying away from GME now because of the amount of short interest makes little sense. The huge short interest and plan to squeeze them out is where these wild figures like $5,000 are coming from. No one "investing" in GME right now is doing so because they believe in the fundamentals. Quote
Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: So theorizing that this stock can still triple and hit 4 figures is a caution to the people on this board to stay away? Because that sounds like encouraging people to buy. This whole strategy is based on the amount of short interest. Bidding up the price is designed to force shorts to cover or get margin called thus forcing them to buy shares to cover their positions. If no one is selling then the shorts have to sweeten the deal further bidding up prices, forcing more margin calls, bidding up prices, forcing more margin calls, etc. Shying away from GME now because of the amount of short interest makes little sense. The huge short interest and plan to squeeze them out is where these wild figures like $5,000 are coming from. No one "investing" in GME right now is doing so because they believe in the fundamentals. Indeed. I wouldn't recommend now because the potential for loss at $350 is just so much greater than it is if you got in at below $50. The stock isn't worthless. I would propose it was undervalued before this all happened and should be in the 10-15 range most likely when all is said and done. Going from 50 to 10 is a whole lot different than going from 350 to 10. I can still believe its going to 4 figures (or close to) and recommend not to buy as it is by no means any sort of certainty and the risk is too high at this buy-in price point IMO. Fundamentals are in no way part of this play. Its all about the squeeze 100% and that may never actually come. When I mentioned the numbers I was referring to the short numbers. But, if trends continue tomorrow and Friday, it COULD be up to $1000 by EOD Friday. COULD not will, COULD. Edited January 27, 2021 by Mark80 Quote
T&C Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Just throwing it out there, markets are closed. Dow -659 S&P -102 Nasdaq -355 Horrible day overall. Quote
Mark80 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, T&C said: Just throwing it out there, markets are closed. Dow -659 S&P -102 Nasdaq -355 Horrible day overall. Another number I like ... is this in part caused by these shorters liquidating assets to get the cash they are going to need? Or, a part I don't like ... is this common folk liquidating assets to buy more of this or AMC or BB or whatever they are hoping will be the next GME? The market itself will be back in no time if this, in fact, having an impact in some way. Edited January 27, 2021 by Mark80 Quote
MarkyMannn Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Bought NAKD at $1.01 at 3pm at closing $1.40 A friend told me to get into GME late last week at what was it? $8? Didn't do it 7 hours ago, T&C said: Just throwing it out there, markets are closed. Dow -659 S&P -102 Nasdaq -355 Horrible day overall. Quote
MarkyMannn Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: No, its the result of thousands of retail traders banding together online to manipulate the market. Yeah I'm not so sure it would take a TREMENDOUS amount of traders Go to wallstreetbets and read all the stories of people that made a killing on GME............... or so they say. I'd be scared to be in that now. Just like that NAKD I bought, I doubt I hold that more than 1-2 days Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, MarkyMannn said: Yeah I'm not so sure it would take a TREMENDOUS amount of traders Go to wallstreetbets and read all the stories of people that made a killing on GME............... or so they say. I'd be scared to be in that now. Just like that NAKD I bought, I doubt I hold that more than 1-2 days I've been following the whole time. No one has made any killing yet, because they arent cashing out. 1 Quote
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