Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Complaints about the Bills less than overt attempts to fix the offensive line notwithstanding, as big a concern, perhaps, is the fact that we still have Lindell as our kicker. There have got to be some free agents out there who can kick.
CoachChuckDickerson Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Complaints about the Bills less than overt attempts to fix the offensive line notwithstanding, as big a concern, perhaps, is the fact that we still have Lindell as our kicker. There have got to be some free agents out there who can kick. 317179[/snapback] Was there a better kicker available in the draft when we were picking?
its only real shh Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 theres never any quality kickers in free agency, thats why u got guys like morten anderson comin outta retirement at 55 years old. maybe a rookie free agent whos been past over can compete for a job but it looks like we have lindell again.
Mark VI Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 I agree. I see the Bills signing at least 1 or 2 UDFA's to bring in to challenge Lindell, along with the guy in Europe, Pochman.
Tipster19 Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Question, probably a stupid one, don't they use kickers in the Canadian league? If so, I never hear about them. I wonder, with the climate being somewhat similiar to ours, why haven't we looked up north for a replacement?
Ozymandius Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 a great kicker is surprisingly hard to find... you would think in a world of 6 billion people, you'd be able to find 32 that can nail field goals consistently... we needed to get lucky to get Nugent... we didn't... let's replace Lindell next offseason... we weren't going to win the Super Bowl this year anyway
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 One of the dumbest comment TD ever made was a statement that good enough kickers are a dime a diozen which he made in the context of Arians failing to be an adequate replacement for Christie, His words may be true to the extent he brought in Graham to replace Ariens, but let him go when he found a better kicker (Hollis) only to have Graham become a good kicker for CIN. Meanwhile, Hollis proved to be a good kicker for the Bills, but psychotic (or at least neurotic) like many kickers and TD could not get a deal done with him only to see Hollis fall to injury. He over-reached contractually on Lindell. Lindell is actually an improving kicker who may become adequate next season. However, he simply sucked his first season for us and improved (his KOs were great and his onsides were good last year) in '04. However, his miss of a chipshot against Pitts and some odd timing which saw him never hit a crucial FG over 50 yards (though he never missed one either as he oddly has never has been in a crticial position for the Bills in two years of play left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. The big deal though is the contract over-reach because unless the replacement kicker was a sure thing (Vinateri or Vanderjagt) cutting Lindell and looking elsewhere makes very little football sense, i think Nugent MAY have been a semi-reasonable choice for the Bills if he dropped to the 3rd or lower for just the right reasons, but it was always near impossible that cutting Lindell to get him was ever possible.
KD in CA Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Despite his playoff failure, Doug Brian is better than Lindell and presumably will be available.
Buckeye Eric Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Complaints about the Bills less than overt attempts to fix the offensive line notwithstanding, as big a concern, perhaps, is the fact that we still have Lindell as our kicker. There have got to be some free agents out there who can kick. 317179[/snapback] Anyone who thought they could "fix" the OL with the draft is kidding themselves. The draft is a crap shoot. The draft will be a success if two of these guys are still on the roster in '08.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Anyone who thought they could "fix" the OL with the draft is kidding themselves. The draft is a crap shoot. The draft will be a success if two of these guys are still on the roster in '08. 317302[/snapback] Especially considering one of them is 5'9" 169.
RJsackedagain Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 Oh, I thought this was a post about the Bills failure to address its low team wonderlic score average
ChasBB Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 we weren't going to win the Super Bowl this year anyway 317209[/snapback] If we're not in it this year for the Super Bowl, then what the hell are we playing at all for??!!! Of course we're in it for the Super Bowl -- THIS YEAR. In this world of free agency, EVERY year you've got to be in it to win it all -- there's no more building franchises through the draft like the Cowboys did in the 70's. I expect the Bills to be focusing on the Super Bowl this year. If they are not, then they shouldn't even bother suiting up.
Dwight Drane Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 a great kicker is surprisingly hard to find... you would think in a world of 6 billion people, you'd be able to find 32 that can nail field goals consistently... we needed to get lucky to get Nugent... we didn't... let's replace Lindell next offseason... we weren't going to win the Super Bowl this year anyway 317209[/snapback] Amen. I knew a guy who was 6'0", 225lb, and practiced longsnapping every day for 6 years. He got a free ride to College and an invite to an NFL camp. You'd think there would be some soccer player kicking field goals every day in Ireland just for the heck of it.
JimBob2232 Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 You could pry vanderjact away from IND without much problem. Same goes for Doug Brien from NYJ. Someone will come up better than lindell (who isnt?), but will we want to pay for them and pay dead cap on lindell. thats the issue.
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 I really wanted Nugent and think he would've single handedly had more impact than all of the players we drafted combined next season. However, it seems if Donahoe really would've considered this guy, we could've moved up 10 spots or so and got this guy. Disappointing as it may be, the braintrust must not have been seriously considering Nugent unless he absolutely fell into our lap.
krazykat Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 Anyone who thought they could "fix" the OL with the draft is kidding themselves. The draft is a crap shoot. The draft will be a success if two of these guys are still on the roster in '08. 317302[/snapback] Ya ain't fixin' the line by drafting WRs and receiving TEs.
EC-Bills Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 I agree. I see the Bills signing at least 1 or 2 UDFA's to bring in to challenge Lindell, along with the guy in Europe, Pochman. 317192[/snapback] I say Pochman beats out Lindell.
Bear Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 What's up with Novak? He got some good press before the draft, but didn't get drafted. I thought he would go in the late 6th or 7th. I never saw him play, just read the articles. Sounds like he could be a good kicker, but maybe not so hot at kicking off...although Lindell is lacking there as well. Anyone know about him?
eball Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 I say Pochman beats out Lindell. 317702[/snapback] kicking FGs isn't the only way a K helps the team. part of the bills' vast improvement on ST last year includes KO coverage, and by all accounts lindell was excellent in his kick placement throughout the year -- a factor that should not be underestimated. like all of you, i was disappointed w/ the FG inadequacies, but i'm hoping the guy continues to improve in that area (and is given some more opportunities to make the long ones this year).
BuckeyeBill Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 Ya ain't fixin' the line by drafting WRs and receiving TEs. 317663[/snapback] I don't think our line needs fixing... Neither does McNally and neither does TD.
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