NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Stumbled across this article and after a cursory search didn't see it posted here yet, thought it was an interesting wrinkle on the concept of gaming out your upcoming opponent's strengths and weaknesses during the season--I'm not a big video game player but for those here who love playing Madden, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness this would have or not? Also, isn't the game only as good as its data inputs/programming? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/25/john-madden-thinks-nfl-teams-can-benefit-from-hiring-madden-players/ Edited January 26, 2021 by NoHuddleKelly12 2
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I’ve been lied to. To think I could’ve lived in my parents basement playing video games and amounted to something after all... instead of this go to college get a real job grow up and have a family nonsense..... dam it lies!!! 3
BuffaloBobs Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Stumbled across this article and after a cursory search didn't see it posted here yet, thought it was an interesting wrinkle on the concept of gaming out your upcoming opponent's strengths and weaknesses during the season--I'm not a big video game player but for those here who love playing Madden, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness this would have or not? Also, isn't the game only as good as its data inputs/programming? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/25/john-madden-thinks-nfl-teams-can-benefit-from-hiring-madden-players/ I don't really get this from a game planning perspective. I do think it could maybe help with practicing game management -- when to go for it on fourth down, take the field goal, go for two and maybe for basic familiarity with players and their strengths and weaknesses but John sounds really out of touch talking about this. It's kind of sad really given the football mind he had. Edited January 26, 2021 by BuffaloBobs
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Stumbled across this article and after a cursory search didn't see it posted here yet, thought it was an interesting wrinkle on the concept of gaming out your upcoming opponent's strengths and weaknesses during the season--I'm not a big video game player but for those here who love playing Madden, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness this would have or not? Also, isn't the game only as good as its data inputs/programming? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/25/john-madden-thinks-nfl-teams-can-benefit-from-hiring-madden-players/ Tre White and Edmunds play like gods in the game but get destroyed in real life. I wouldn’t put much into Madden.
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Stumbled across this article and after a cursory search didn't see it posted here yet, thought it was an interesting wrinkle on the concept of gaming out your upcoming opponent's strengths and weaknesses during the season--I'm not a big video game player but for those here who love playing Madden, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness this would have or not? Also, isn't the game only as good as its data inputs/programming? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/25/john-madden-thinks-nfl-teams-can-benefit-from-hiring-madden-players/ Of course you are dealing with an A.I. and of course twiddling your thumbs is not the same as being on real or fake grass and doing the moves. However, what it can give you is repetition and seeing how these plays unfold and what is going on. "...but you have game and practice video for that." Yeah, but you can't control any aspect of that, other than forwards or reverse. All these guys play it and they have had an understanding of it since they were knee bitters. It is just a game, but I can see where to at least some degree it can be a tool. It's effectiveness is certainly up for debate. I guess it depends on how much you think you can get out of it. Ballet moves are vastly different from football, and also a vastly different vocation than the game. However, that's used to assist players in their movement and strength coordination. If Madden can add something to today's players with respect to their perception and repetition, then more power to them and the game. Edited January 26, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts 1
HardyBoy Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 The current version of madden is not close to simulation football.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 Still the gold standard as far as I'm concerned 😅 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Of course you are dealing with an A.I. and of course twiddling your thumbs is not the same as being on real or fake grass and doing the moves. However, what it can give you is repetition and seeing how these plays unfold and what is going on. "...but you have game and practice video for that." Yeah, but you can't control any aspect of that, other than forwards or reverse. All these guys play it and they have had an understanding of it since they were knee bitters. It is just a game, but I can see where to at least some degree it can be a tool. It's effectiveness is certainly up for debate. I guess it depends on how much you think you can get out of it. Ballet moves are vastly different from football, and also a vastly different vocation than the game. However, that's used to assist players in their movement and strength coordination. If Madden can add something to today's players with respect to their perception and repetition, then more power to them and the game. Good point--and in a league where razor thin margins separate the great from the also-rans, any competitive advantage needs to be explored, even if it's just simulating in-game issues than can come up, such as clock management. 2
ClemsonBills Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I can use the Jets and beat the Chiefs by 50...lol This is silly.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, ClemsonBills said: I can use the Jets and beat the Chiefs by 50...lol This is silly. Pics or it didn't happen. 2
Warcodered Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Stumbled across this article and after a cursory search didn't see it posted here yet, thought it was an interesting wrinkle on the concept of gaming out your upcoming opponent's strengths and weaknesses during the season--I'm not a big video game player but for those here who love playing Madden, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness this would have or not? Also, isn't the game only as good as its data inputs/programming? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/25/john-madden-thinks-nfl-teams-can-benefit-from-hiring-madden-players/ My opinion is the team that won the Big Madden tournament last year had a punter for a QB.
Motorin' Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, ClemsonBills said: I can use the Jets and beat the Chiefs by 50...lol This is silly. On All Madden set to Competative? 1
thenorthremembers Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Not happening. As secretive as these guys are, do you think they are hiring some outside jags to complete their staff? Not for nothing, they are running real life simulations in practice, why do they need Madden players again? 1
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Honestly, I doubt it. EA sports may want to boast about how it’s a realistic football sim, the engine and AI are usually quite broken making a more arcade style game. 1
Mikie2times Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Madden is such a dumpster fire I haven't purchased it for the last 2 years. Last years Madden bowl winner used a Punter at QB and ran on 100% of his plays. Great job with those exclusive rights EA! 1
Maybe Someday Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Madden would be good for helping a novice learn about a team and what they do well. You could maybe use it to help with your fantasy team. I would lose all faith in my team if I found out they used it to help with any kind of game planning. 1
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