Mango Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 4:35 AM, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: You could also state that “QB” provided Diggs his best season as a pro and one of the best ever as a WR!!! But, you could never bring yourself to add that as a caveat! Expand So when people ask if “Josh will take a hometown discount”. Stuff like this is the only way it works I think. Josh wouldn’t take less to “sign other players” but he might say, I’ll take 38M, give the other 4m to Diggs and lock him up with me.
eball Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 After seeing what Diggs brought to this team it is obvious he is “underpaid” with respect to the top WRs in the league. If I am Beane I don’t wait for Diggs to get “upset” about his deal, I go to him and say “we know you outperformed your contract and we are working through things to make our roster better next year so be patient with us, we’ll take care of you” or something to that effect. Get out in front of it. And yes, I absolutely believe Josh Allen wants to be in Buffalo for his entire career and will be willing to accept a fair but team-friendly contract.
JMF2006 Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I thought he got restructured when he got here...more bonus money or something.
Captain_Quint Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I think hes a prime candidate to restructure his deal. Maybe not this offseason, but probably by the end of the year. Just my opinion, but I dont think he'll hold out. And I dont think hes satisfied yet to just go after a payday no matter what. I think he wants a Super Bowl win and sees a chance to do it with the Bills.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 12:11 PM, mattynh said: He is 15th in average per year. Underpaid, yes and I agree something will probably be done. Add 4 million and he jumps to 6 ahead of Tyreek Hill and Mike Evans. The Deandre Hopkins deal is ridiculous IMO. He does not have the leverage of being an impending FA. Beasley is 31 and John Brown is 26 in average pay so the Bills have a lot of resources at WR. As a lot of others have said, Brown may be let go or possibly extended to reduce his money in 2021 vs the cap. This will be an interesting off season for the Bills when it comes to contracts......they are no longer flush with cap space. Expand Sorry, if his agent suggested getting paid more than Tyreek, It would be a good time to turn on the AFCC game film.
Doc Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I'll bet he doesn't. Not this coming season at least. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 He gets paid plenty already. AND the Bills already moved money up for him this year, so he made more than originally planned. However, he has no guaranteed money left. I think if Beane were to simply guarantee the rest of his contract, it would go a long way and he'd be happy. That way, Diggs is secure and happy, and it doesnt cost us anything more.
Doc Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) On 1/26/2021 at 4:43 AM, Doc Brown said: Hopkins has an average annual salary of a little over 27 million a year. Diggs average is 14.4 million per year. He's crazy if he doesn't demand a raise. Expand That's not entirely accurate. They added-on 2 more years to his deal at $27M/year. What he's getting paid by the Cards is about $18.9M/year over 5 years. Edited January 26, 2021 by Doc
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 1:20 PM, DrDawkinstein said: He gets paid plenty already. AND the Bills already moved money up for him this year, so he made more than originally planned. However, he has no guaranteed money left. I think if Beane were to simply guarantee the rest of his contract, it would go a long way and he'd be happy. That way, Diggs is secure and happy, and it doesnt cost us anything more. Expand That's not quite true. $11M of Diggs 2021 salary becomes guaranteed in March 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 1:23 PM, Doc said: That's not entirely accurate. They added-on 2 more years to his deal at $27M/year. What he's getting paid by the Cards is about $18.9M/year over 5 years. Expand That's pretty much what the Bills will do also this offseason. Another reason Smoke will be released and Gabriel Davis will step into his role.
SCBills Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 12:45 PM, Mango said: So when people ask if “Josh will take a hometown discount”. Stuff like this is the only way it works I think. Josh wouldn’t take less to “sign other players” but he might say, I’ll take 38M, give the other 4m to Diggs and lock him up with me. Expand Mahomes essentially did the same thing for Chris Jones.
Victory Formation Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 I could see another $3M-$4M more per year but I can’t imagine any more than that.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 1:23 PM, Doc said: That's not entirely accurate. They added-on 2 more years to his deal at $27M/year. What he's getting paid by the Cards is about $18.9M/year over 5 years. Expand Even further, misleading. Hopkins salary this season was $1.5M with a $7M cap hit. For 2021, $4.7M giving him a $12.5M cap hit 2022, he has a big roster bonus which brings him to a $25M cap hit. The 2022 salary also reportedly becomes guaranteed at the start of the 2021 league year. It's not like Hopkins is bringing home $25M or $18.9M this year or next https://overthecap.com/player/deandre-hopkins/2208/
Doc Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 3:57 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: That's pretty much what the Bills will do also this offseason. Another reason Smoke will be released and Gabriel Davis will step into his role. Expand The Bills adjusted his contract last year and he knows there's a cap crunch. Again I bet he doesn't ask for more money until 2022.
Steptide Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Off topic, but did he ever speak to the media yesterday?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) On 1/26/2021 at 4:11 PM, Doc said: The Bills adjusted his contract last year and he knows there's a cap crunch. Again I bet he doesn't ask for more money until 2022. Expand They will adjust it again. Bills will reward players that completely outperform their contract. Edited January 26, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede
Don Otreply Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 4:22 AM, DCofNC said: He clearly out played his deal this year, I bet he threatens a hold out if he doesn’t get paid to match production. All this FA talk and we are about to enter the situation with 50-60M a year in the QB and 1 WR, lots of people are going to be gone. Expand I’ll go ahead and say your wrong, Diggs got a boost in pay when he signed in Buffalo after getting a new contract/more pay shortly before he left the Vikings. Diggs would be a massive tool on all fronts to insist on additional money at this time, that and Beane will tell him as much, only in a more professional manner should he choose to go down that road. Go Bills!!!
Ramza86 Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Diggs and Allen are the priority. As long as those two are together I dont see how this team doesnt make the playoffs every year. Get those two locked up and figure the rest out.
appoo Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 comparing to Hopkins is misleading, as he signed just a 2 year contract, so it's yearly value is a lot higher. In terms of total contact value, Diggs is the 8th highest, behind the likes Keenan Allen and Jarvis Landry, ahead of Julio and Devante Adams. AAV, he is 16th. Of guys on a 5 year contract, he is 7th. Amari Cooper, OBJ, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, and JArvis Landry are ahead of him. Finally, keep in mind that Diggs is almost purely a Z WR. Traditionally thought of as a #2. But when looking at Flankers, Tyreke Hill (3 year contract ,who plays a lot of X), Robert Woods, Adam Thielen (4 year contract), and Jarvis Landry (5 years) have a higher AAV. In terms of total contract value, he is the 2nd highest paid Z in the NFL, he is 3M behind Jarvis Landry, who signed extensions in the same year (2018). His agent might be able to argue for about 2-3M a year more, but not much more than that. Not when Diggs is 28. I love Diggs and think he's an elite Z. But an elite Z is certainly not as impactful as an elite X
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 3:55 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's not quite true. $11M of Diggs 2021 salary becomes guaranteed in March Expand Yes, but that isnt that big of a guarantee. Just guarantee the rest of the contract. It doesnt change our financials, isnt that big of a hit if something were to happen, and it gives him security into the future if there is a freak accident in camp or something (watch those rubber mats!).
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