Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: I don't care that we spent two 3rd rders, this backfield is not cutting it. A running game would make us exponentially stronger. Who's out there for FAs next year? 3rd and 2 is scarier tham 3rd and 7 with this team. Its gotta stop. Id rather they go get a premier guy, and be done with the position while our window is still open The problem is they keep getting the same person. Short grinder with low speed. There is no change of pace there 2
Nelius Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Saying this from a Denver-based perspective - Bills Mafia would love Phillip Lindsay after about the first 5 minutes of his first camp practice. Ran a 4.39 40 and I imagine just about any Bronco is available right now. Has the speed that this team needs and is a total hardworking McBeane process guy. Been in Singletary's corner all year, but it's just not working out. He has his moments but he's never going to get 20 carries and this team clearly needs some more speed at RB. Singletary kind of feels like a giant incomplete rather than a failure to me, but I think it's clear that you need to do something next year, he can't be anything more than a depth back. Edited January 25, 2021 by Nelius 1 1
CapeBreton Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: Travis Ettienne at 30, please... I wouldn’t be opposed to this, everyone thinks you can get an RB anywhere because of undrafted guys like James Robinson but the majority of good RBs are taken in the first two rounds of the draft.
Dr.Sack Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Singletary must improve his game in 2021. But let’s not blame him on the loss. 1
Motorin' Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, CapeBreton said: I wouldn’t be opposed to this, everyone thinks you can get an RB anywhere because of undrafted guys like James Robinson but the majority of good RBs are taken in the first two rounds of the draft. You can get a RB anywhere, you're just not guaranteed to. Ettienne adds more than just speed, he's a deadly weapon in the passing game in the area that Josh struggles the most, taking the quick check down.
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: He's soft, and has lost confidence. We can't go into another year with him as a lead back. He can't break tackles and doesn't distinguish himself in the passing game. We need to draft a runner. He wasn't the lead back at the end of the season. Well, moss seemed to usurp him. I would honestly play yeldon over him. He's a situation back. He makes us 1 dimensional. 1
DJB Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Travis Ettienne at 30, please... CJ Spiller 2.0? No thanks. Najee Harris.
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: McCoy in his prime or Lynch in his prime on this team would be an elite offense.. right now this offense just isn't dynamic enough to shoot it out with KC Kamara would solve our RB issues. Then heavy OL DL in draft we are not doing the best in the trenches,,, especially defense Too light in the butt... by design. McD likes this d line. Save for star this was his thing
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Travis Ettienne at 30, please... Terrible use of a first rounder.
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I'd cut him Immediately. He's the definition of mediocre. Keep Moss and draft another. The coaches should apologize to Yeldon. Love this
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: I wouldn’t be opposed to this, everyone thinks you can get an RB anywhere because of undrafted guys like James Robinson but the majority of good RBs are taken in the first two rounds of the draft. 1st round is bad value. Second is okay.
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, Figster said: Yeldon is basically another big WR coming out of the back field. I feel like he is good enough IF he holds the ball
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: 1st round is bad value. Second is okay. End of the 1st round is not that different in value from the 2nd round. As usual there are going to be less than 30 players with 1st round grades, and this year more than ever it is going to be difficult to draft due to limited college games plus no combine or private visits. I am usually completely against the idea of the Bills drafting a RB early but it is the last piece our offense needs and it's an easy position to scout. 3
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: End of the 1st round is not that different in value from the 2nd round. As usual there are going to be less than 30 players with 1st round grades, and this year more than ever it is going to be difficult to draft due to limited college games plus no combine or private visits. I am usually completely against the idea of the Bills drafting a RB early but it is the last piece our offense needs and it's an easy position to scout. We need a TE way more imo, and TE is way slimmer pickings than RB pretty much every year.
ColoradoBills Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: T.J. Yeldon has looked worlds better. Makes me wonder what we could have been if we rolled with him and Moss instead all season. TJ should of dressed in more games and got a better look. I know they wanted to have Taiwan Jones in for STs but it might have been better if they didn't. All things McDermott and Beane need to discuss in the next month.
Dukestreetking Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: He's made a difference in several games, along with Moss. Running the clock down at the end of several games, getting several important first downs, making some nice catches and runs and doing an absolute ton of terrific blocks keeping our QB unsacked. And a couple of TDs on top of that. These are objective, fair points, esp amidst all this anguish. I'm a big Motor fan, but it's also fair to address the OP's "question", which I take to mean "disappointed w his season?" Imv, the only balanced answer is "yes". Clear improvement in pass pro, but no further/consistent development in speed and explosiveness, nor in route running. You know, fear inducing skills. I mean how many wheel routes or delayed goes did he have? I don't think many, and that was a scheme decision, so I assume coaches didn't see it in him. As for this game, I'll only note that Duke (I'm not a fan) got roasted for dropped balls v Texans, and they were contested. Motor's dropped screen (albeit not in end zone) was a costly mistake. Ready to dump him? No. But, again as a fan, it's best we keep our eyes wide open. Edited January 25, 2021 by Dukestreetking
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: We need a TE way more imo, and TE is way slimmer pickings than RB pretty much every year. 1st round TEs have a terrible history. I know teams that draft RBs in the 1st don't tend to win a Super Bowl with them but at least they are good players more often than not. I also think Knox played well down the stretch and Daboll just doesn't know how to get him involved outside of misdirection plays. I wouldn't trust him to utilize a TE if we drafted one. You can tell he wants RBs to be a big part of this offense, we just don't have a player to make it work. Edited January 25, 2021 by HappyDays
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: 1st round TEs have a terrible history. I know teams that draft RBs in the 1st don't tend to win a Super Bowl with them but at least they are good players more often than not. I also think Knox played well down the stretch and Daboll just doesn't know how to get him involved outside of misdirection plays. I wouldn't trust him to utilize a TE if we drafted one. You can tell he wants RBs to be a big part of this offense, we just don't have a player to make it work. Knox is simply not consistent enough to be a focal point of our offense. A TE that lives in the seam and the soft hook/curl is money. Maybe there isn't a TE at #30 worth it. But I'd reach for a TE before I'd reach for an RB. CEH was yanked for an UDFA tonight. That pick was a waste by KC.
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: He's soft, and has lost confidence. We can't go into another year with him as a lead back. He can't break tackles and doesn't distinguish himself in the passing game. We need to draft a runner. It’s unfortunate because we’ve used two high draft picks on RBs in the past two drafts and we have nothing to show for it—and it’s an easy position to scout and draft. 1
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: I'd reach for a TE before I'd reach for an RB. CEH was yanked for an UDFA tonight. That pick was a waste by KC. And I'm not saying I will be mad if the Bills don't draft a RB early this year, but to keep up with KC they need to make this offense even better next year and that is one way to do it. No need to wait for a rookie WR or TE to adjust to the pro game. Get a RB that has speed and can catch the ball and plug him in. The Chiefs don't need to use RBs in their pass game because they have an elite WR and TE. We aren't going to pull another elite offensive player out of a hat. We need to try a different strategy. 2
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