Coach Tuesday Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 1:24 AM, FireChans said: What I will say is that the Detroit Lions lose games for lots of reasons and they win games because of Matt Stafford. They have had mediocre talent at almost every position but WR for basically his entire career there. Expand Im sorry when do the Detroit Lions win games? He should go to Oakland and become Gruden’s latest salvage project. Edited January 24, 2021 by Coach Tuesday
FireChans Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 1:27 AM, Coach Tuesday said: Im sorry when do the Detroit Lions win games? He should go to Oakland and become Gruden’s latest salvage project. Expand About a little less than half the time. Matt Stafford in the AFC South or the NFC East probably has 4-5 division titles. 1
Coach Tuesday Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 1:39 AM, FireChans said: About a little less than half the time. Matt Stafford in the AFC South or the NFC East probably has 4-5 division titles. Expand His division has mostly sucked for most of his career. But anyhow you’ll soon find out if you’re right. They’re letting him go (which should tell you everything), and we’ll see if Arians or Gruden or or McDaniels or Shanahan can win with him. I’m skeptical.
Rc2catch Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 1:39 AM, FireChans said: About a little less than half the time. Matt Stafford in the AFC South or the NFC East probably has 4-5 division titles. Expand I think people might forget the 5k a season stafford chucking the ball non stop because they had zero run game and zero defense. Everyone knew he had to throw, he took a beating, and still kept them in games. The Caldwell lions were close to taking the next step. Then they hired Patricia. I think the best question here would be... Has the beatings stafford taken ruined his body and mind? Cause the arm talent is still there.
Coach Tuesday Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 1:43 AM, Rc2catch said: I think people might forget the 5k a season stafford chucking the ball non stop because they had zero run game and zero defense. Everyone knew he had to throw, he took a beating, and still kept them in games. The Caldwell lions were close to taking the next step. Then they hired Patricia. I think the best question here would be... Has the beatings stafford taken ruined his body and mind? Cause the arm talent is still there. Expand Arm talent and toughness, certainly. Not enough leadership or brains. He’s aloof and not a master of the Xs and Os. Plus he’s liable to get canceled because of an errant tweet from his wife. Edited January 24, 2021 by Coach Tuesday
97bills Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 This is nuts for the lions but great for him I would of loved to see sanders get out taking the money isn’t always the best situation
frostbitmic Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Dallas ? He grew up and played HS ball there. Cheaper than Dak and better than Dalton.
WotAGuy Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 12:38 AM, whatdrought said: Pats don't make a ton of sense- they have so many holes. Expand ...and their coach is the biggest hole, amirite?🤣
FireChans Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 1:42 AM, Coach Tuesday said: His division has mostly sucked for most of his career. But anyhow you’ll soon find out if you’re right. They’re letting him go (which should tell you everything), and we’ll see if Arians or Gruden or or McDaniels or Shanahan can win with him. I’m skeptical. Expand I mean, I’m not saying Stafford is the greatest of all time or has been perfect. But is he a top 16 QB? I’d say yes, easily. On 1/24/2021 at 1:43 AM, Rc2catch said: I think people might forget the 5k a season stafford chucking the ball non stop because they had zero run game and zero defense. Everyone knew he had to throw, he took a beating, and still kept them in games. The Caldwell lions were close to taking the next step. Then they hired Patricia. I think the best question here would be... Has the beatings stafford taken ruined his body and mind? Cause the arm talent is still there. Expand Stafford is tired of rebuilding with a new HC. I don’t blame him.
Dkollidas Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 My gut tells me Denver makes the move for Stafford. Their 1st, 4th and Lock for Stafford and a 2022 5th or something like that. 1
FieldGeneral Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 How did they have him that long, never have to worry about replacing him, and still never put a team around him?
billsherd Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Damn, when bills needed a qb where were this deals? Guys like Stafford and Watson are being thrown around for trades. 1
TheFunPolice Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 He will be 33, so you figure he's got a solid 5 seasons in him, for sure. I hope he goes somewhere and does well. Colts do make a ton of sense. 1
billsfan89 Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 The Colts might be a good fit, not sure where else he could go that would make sense for both parties. I think Campbell is selling the ownership on a 3 year full rebuild.
JaCrispy Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 2:36 AM, billsherd said: Damn, when bills needed a qb where were this deals? Guys like Stafford and Watson are being thrown around for trades. Expand Lol...was thinking the same thing...we were so desperate for a QB in 2013, our best shot at a QB was EJ Manuel in the first round... 1
Doc Brown Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 So, the kneecap speech couldn't repair things I guess. I'm guessing Watson won't waive his no trade clause to go to the Lions. 1
Mango Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Could the AFCE become the toughest division in football? -NE: There were some whispers of Stafford to NE for 2021 during the season. Maybe unfounded. But he’s available now. Pats have some more space, BB, and 10 players coming back from covid. -Watson: reported we wants out bad. Top 2 choices are NYJ and MIA. Imagine a division with Watson, Allen, Stafford. Plus the defenses of McD, BB, and Flores. Not sure there would be a deeper combination of offense and defense in the league. 1
FireChans Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 3:14 AM, Mango said: Could the AFCE become the toughest division in football? -NE: There were some whispers of Stafford to NE for 2021 during the season. Maybe unfounded. But he’s available now. Pats have some more space, BB, and 10 players coming back from covid. -Watson: reported we wants out bad. Top 2 choices are NYJ and MIA. Imagine a division with Watson, Allen, Stafford. Plus the defenses of McD, BB, and Flores. Not sure there would be a deeper combination of offense and defense in the league. Expand Shades of Brees, Ryan and Cam at their peaks. 1
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 1:42 AM, Coach Tuesday said: His division has mostly sucked for most of his career. But anyhow you’ll soon find out if you’re right. They’re letting him go (which should tell you everything), and we’ll see if Arians or Gruden or or McDaniels or Shanahan can win with him. I’m skeptical. Expand I think this is telling me two things: 1) The Lions are in for a full rebuild 2) The Lions are really trying to change how they treat players. In the past Stafford would have had to retire to get away like Sanders and Megatron. So it seems like the new owner is serious about treating the players better than her predecessor. At least the Lions fans have that going for them, which is nice
FireChans Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 3:17 AM, 4BillsintheBurgh said: I think this is telling me two things: 1) The Lions are in for a full rebuild 2) The Lions are really trying to change how they treat players. In the past Stafford would have had to retire to get away like Sanders and Megatron. So it seems like the new owner is serious about treating the players better than her predecessor. At least the Lions fans have that going for them, which is nice Expand The story coming out is that they told their new GM and HC that Stafford was probably on his way out. Their latest blue chip player had a rough rookie season.
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