wolfpack78 Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Stills had a 54 yard TD last year in the Divisional Round in KC. Could be much worse options to have. 1
BuffaninSarasota Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: If he were so good that everyone had confidence in him, we wouldn’t even being discussing this. We talking about Kenny Stills. We not talking about the game......no, not the game.....we talking about Kenny Stills you're the one continuing the conversation about Stills - I tried to end it. I'm not advocating for him; I'm sure the team has a plan for this game with or without him. "we talking"???? 1
NewEra Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: you're the one continuing the conversation about Stills - I tried to end it. I'm not advocating for him; I'm sure the team has a plan for this game with or without him. "we talking"???? When people quote me, I try to reply. Sorry. Talkin is an Allen Iverson reference
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Why are people so down on Stills? I thought he was a pretty good depth signing for the playoffs, well see. 1 1
racketmaster Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, wolfpack78 said: Stills had a 54 yard TD last year in the Divisional Round in KC. Could be much worse options to have. I like the play design. Fake bubble screen to Diggs and go deep to Stills!
NewEra Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Why are people so down on Stills? I thought he was a pretty good depth signing for the playoffs, well see. Because he’s just that. A pretty good depth signing. I’m not down on him.....I just don’t think he’s going to play. I want Davis to suit up. Davis >>> stills. Mckenzie > Stills. If Davis were to miss the game, Stills should suit up and is a very good option to have on the PS as insurance.....which I’ve said all along.
Real McClappy Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 8 hours ago, NewEra said: He’s a #2 or 3? Lol. I don’t see it There isn't much to see Era, he did not play this year as the Texans are ran so well as of late. I have extreme confidence in their FO that Stills just magically sucks now. Prior to this year his 7 playing years he averaged 670+ YDs and 5 TDs a season. Is that not WR2 or WR3 production to you? It's a fantastic late addition for depth at the WR position for our team by Beane. If he plays as a 4 or 5 on our team, I really have zero issues with that ar all to fill in for injuries. 1
NewEra Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Real McNasty said: There isn't much to see Era, he did not play this year as the Texans are ran so well as of late. I have extreme confidence in their FO that Stills just magically sucks now. Prior to this year his 7 playing years he averaged 670+ YDs and 5 TDs a season. Is that not WR2 or WR3 production to you? It's a fantastic late addition for depth at the WR position for our team by Beane. If he plays as a 4 or 5 on our team, I really have zero issues with that ar all to fill in for injuries. I don’t look at stats to determine wether or not a player is good or not. I look at situations. The Dolphins paid stills too much money for what he was worth and they had to use him. He was their speed guy to play the boundary with Landry in the slot and flanked by Parker, who was never healthy. He put up some ok numbers. He also dropped a bunch of passes. His hands are meh imo. he was never a “good” #2 or 3 wr imo. He was a #2/3 wr because Miami was inept. I remember when we’d discuss whether or not Stevie johnson was a #1 wr. He was our #1 Wr, by default. Similar to stills being the default 2 in Miami. Parker missing lots of games made him look like a 2 in the stat column a couple seasons. He’s a jag with speed that can make some plays when called upon. A good depth WR and backup plan. Never should’ve been part of the main plan. jmo. It’s ok to disagree 1
wjag Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Late to the convo. He’s been in camp now for three weeks. KC has zero film on him. Just putting him out there is bound to cause some confusion. I could see KC burning a TO just to figure out who is covering him in a Brown, Diggs and Stills alignment, especially if he is out wide with Diggs in the slot. The game within the game. Edited January 24, 2021 by wjag 1
Real McClappy Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t look at stats to determine wether or not a player is good or not. I look at situations. The Dolphins paid stills too much money for what he was worth and they had to use him. He was their speed guy to play the boundary with Landry in the slot and flanked by Parker, who was never healthy. He put up some ok numbers. He also dropped a bunch of passes. His hands are meh imo. he was never a “good” #2 or 3 wr imo. He was a #2/3 wr because Miami was inept. I remember when we’d discuss whether or not Stevie johnson was a #1 wr. He was our #1 Wr, by default. Similar to stills being the default 2 in Miami. Parker missing lots of games made him look like a 2 in the stat column a couple seasons. He’s a jag with speed that can make some plays when called upon. A good depth WR and backup plan. Never should’ve been part of the main plan. jmo. It’s ok to disagree We both agree on bolded 100%. If he does play and somehow burns one for a TD today that is all we can ask or hope for with his 4.38sec 40. Will he even play today? Maybe as a WR#5 if Davis is out behind Mckenzie. I wish Gabe was healthy as the kid has a ton of upside for us. Edited January 24, 2021 by Real McNasty 1
BuffaninSarasota Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, wjag said: Late to the convo. He’s been in camp now for three weeks. KC has zero film on him. Just putting him out there is bound to cause some confusion. I could see KC burning a TO just to figure out who is covering him in a Brown, Diggs and Stills alignment, especially if he is out wide with Diggs in the slot. The game within the game. yes, and perhaps part of Daboll's diabolical scheme cooked up just for this game. I think it's foregone conclusion he's held back some looks/plays. 1
billsfan1959 Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, NewEra said: He also dropped a bunch of passes. His hands are meh imo. It might have a little to do with who is throwing him the ball. His catch rate with the Dolphins was 52%. With the Saints and the Texans it was around 70% 1
NewEra Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: It might have a little to do with who is throwing him the ball. His catch rate with the Dolphins was 52%. With the Saints and the Texans it was around 70% Absolutely. I’m more talking about drops than catch rate. I’m going mostly off my memories of watching him, so I could be wrong. I’ve seen him drop some layups. In a small sample size this year, his drop rate was 15.8% with Watson throwing him the ball.
billsfan1959 Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, NewEra said: Absolutely. I’m more talking about drops than catch rate. I’m going mostly off my memories of watching him, so I could be wrong. I’ve seen him drop some layups. In a small sample size this year, his drop rate was 15.8% with Watson throwing him the ball. Yeah, I'm not sure what was going on this year with him in Houston. He only had 19 targets, so it is tough to do any sort of real analysis. Last year he had a drop rate of 5% on 50 targets. At any rate, I don't think he sees the field unless Davis can't go. 1
Scott7975 Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 I dont know why people get all crazy about practice squad elevations. Stills is about as solid of a depth receiver as a team could get. If our starters can play then they play. If one of them can't go then Stills is a solid option. I say good job Beane. 2 1
NewEra Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Looks like Davis is unlikely to play. You’re up KENNY!!
Hebert19 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Dressing Davis was a dumb mistake...loyalty over brains. 1
Warcodered Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Dressing Davis was a dumb mistake...loyalty over brains. I mean it's easy to make this statement now but we have no idea how Stills would of played in the offense. 1
Hebert19 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Warcodered said: I mean it's easy to make this statement now but we have no idea how Stills would of played in the offense. Well. He would have played. Gabe played like 5 snaps.
racketmaster Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 Gabe looked like he was hobbling through his routes all night. Stills may have provided some explosion out there 1
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