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One of my most favorite of Bidens lies was late last fall when he predicted a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." I believe we're his words. 

 

Well, I'm unvaccinated and I was just fine. 

 

So, what's up with that? 

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What evidence did they have that 50K troops were needed to be there?  But they didn't know about the great Coup of Jan 2021?   The troops were there as props.  Period.  To bang home further

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Since this is day one , lets start a hew thread. List the lies Biden has told. !. I will not us the military as a show.    Biden has 50K troops guarding empty streets.    

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How about starting this tax nonsense with getting his own kid, you know, the one who pleaded guilty to tax evasion, to obey the law. Hunter could have been convicted of a lot more tax evasio

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1 hour ago, TSOL said:

One of my most favorite of Bidens lies was late last fall when he predicted a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." I believe we're his words. 

 

Well, I'm unvaccinated and I was just fine. 

 

So, what's up with that? 


No worries. Covid as a political tool is over for this year at least. CDC is going to stop counting cases… too much work.  

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40 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I suspect your thinking will change when Democrats are not in control. 

 

That used to be my argument when friends said they wanted to get rid of the filibuster during the Obama administration. That they would regret it when the GOP took over.

 

But at this point, we are so polarized, so divided into our "us vs them" two party camps, that there is zero incentive for senators of one party to do anything that might benefit the other. You could propose a bill that 80% of Americans support but you'd get few people from the other side to join you and reaching the 60 vote threshold, even on a popular bill, would be next to impossible.

 

Congress doesn't actually legislate on anything important any more. There's just no incentive for them to cooperate. But all the American public sees is those bums in Washington not doing anything for the average American.

 

So do away with the filibuster entirely. It will allow the parties to actually pass meaningful legislation AND it would make it very clear to the American public who is responsible for it.

 

If the Dems somehow manage to pick up two senate seats in the Fall, they should immediately do away with the filibuster and pass the legislation they believe they were elected to enact. And if they overreach or don't do what the public wants, then the GOP will take over in 2024. And then the GOP can pass what it wants to pass with no obstruction from the Dems. And the voters can judge them on that.

 

But in the current environment, so long as the filibuster stands, the senate will obstruct meaningful legislation from either party. And the public will blame everyone instead of those doing the obstruction. It's a recipe for nothing getting done and increasing division.

 

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Removing the filibuster may actually create an incentive for bipartisanship. If the minority party knows that the majority party can pass any legislation it wants, then the minority party may be incentivized to be involved in the legislation to help shape it in a manner they find more acceptable. Currently, there is no incentive for this as the minority party can just block the legislation outright.

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43 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

That used to be my argument when friends said they wanted to get rid of the filibuster during the Obama administration. That they would regret it when the GOP took over.

 

But at this point, we are so polarized, so divided into our "us vs them" two party camps, that there is zero incentive for senators of one party to do anything that might benefit the other. You could propose a bill that 80% of Americans support but you'd get few people from the other side to join you and reaching the 60 vote threshold, even on a popular bill, would be next to impossible.

 

Congress doesn't actually legislate on anything important any more. There's just no incentive for them to cooperate. But all the American public sees is those bums in Washington not doing anything for the average American.

 

So do away with the filibuster entirely. It will allow the parties to actually pass meaningful legislation AND it would make it very clear to the American public who is responsible for it.

 

If the Dems somehow manage to pick up two senate seats in the Fall, they should immediately do away with the filibuster and pass the legislation they believe they were elected to enact. And if they overreach or don't do what the public wants, then the GOP will take over in 2024. And then the GOP can pass what it wants to pass with no obstruction from the Dems. And the voters can judge them on that.

 

But in the current environment, so long as the filibuster stands, the senate will obstruct meaningful legislation from either party. And the public will blame everyone instead of those doing the obstruction. It's a recipe for nothing getting done and increasing division.

 

[EDIT] Addendum:

 

Removing the filibuster may actually create an incentive for bipartisanship. If the minority party knows that the majority party can pass any legislation it wants, then the minority party may be incentivized to be involved in the legislation to help shape it in a manner they find more acceptable. Currently, there is no incentive for this as the minority party can just block the legislation outright.

 

Or create a 1 headed monster that would just allow the power to go straight to their heads and let the ignorants run rampant ! I thought the filibuster was to prevent total one party domination ?

 

While they are at it like they have been trying to do so only the heavily populated areas can decide a election just do away with the electoral college too then who ever is in power can do what ever they want to do with no one to oppose it.

 

If they make complete & utter ignorant laws then we can all suffer for 4 years until the next election & when the opposition takes over they can just executive order everything out that was done prior and then they can do what ever stupidity they want .

 

They want the division because as it has been said "United we stand divided we fall" they don't want us to see their ignorants so they keep us fighting to get their agenda's done which i feel is part of the plan & it's working to a tee . 

 

The reason why there was so much hatred right from the beginning with Trump is because he wasn't a DC insider & ran the gov't like a business and that completely pissed off all of the "Career politicians" that have been striving for their agenda's and he went against them all democrat or Republican and that's where the hate came from .

 

They need term limits to get these career politicians need to be out and not allowed to stay on for 50 yrs that's ridiculous & we need not pay for all their pensions !

 

The likes of Waters, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnel, Fienstein & others should all be gone - talk about dinosaurs some probably have dementia and only come in on their good days they sure don't need the money they've screwed the Americans out of enough while in office yet they are still there causing the divide .

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10 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Or create a 1 headed monster that would just allow the power to go straight to their heads and let the ignorants run rampant ! I thought the filibuster was to prevent total one party domination ?

 

While they are at it like they have been trying to do so only the heavily populated areas can decide a election just do away with the electoral college too then who ever is in power can do what ever they want to do with no one to oppose it.

 

If they make complete & utter ignorant laws then we can all suffer for 4 years until the next election & when the opposition takes over they can just executive order everything out that was done prior and then they can do what ever stupidity they want .

 

They want the division because as it has been said "United we stand divided we fall" they don't want us to see their ignorants so they keep us fighting to get their agenda's done which i feel is part of the plan & it's working to a tee . 

 

The reason why there was so much hatred right from the beginning with Trump is because he wasn't a DC insider & ran the gov't like a business and that completely pissed off all of the "Career politicians" that have been striving for their agenda's and he went against them all democrat or Republican and that's where the hate came from .

 

They need term limits to get these career politicians need to be out and not allowed to stay on for 50 yrs that's ridiculous & we need not pay for all their pensions !

 

The likes of Waters, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnel, Fienstein & others should all be gone - talk about dinosaurs some probably have dementia and only come in on their good days they sure don't need the money they've screwed the Americans out of enough while in office yet they are still there causing the divide .

 

Ignorance runs rampant in congress already. Creating incentives for them to actually *do* something might actually make them take measures to address our problems instead of spending all of their time grandstanding for the cameras.

 

I do not understand your point about the cities and the electoral college. Even if they did away with the Electoral College (which they won't), that would just mean everyone gets one vote that counts just as much as everyone else's in presidential elections. The top 100 cities in the country only contain 20% of the population, clearly not enough for whatever the scenario you're outlining is.

 

Part of the reason there was so much hatred from the beginning with Trump is that he's an ####### who acts like a dick and talks absolute nonsense that shows he has little idea about what he's talking about. He was never an outsider savior, he was always a grifting conman.

 

Also, term limits would be the biggest win for the lobbyists you could ever imagine. If you think the biggest problem right now is that big moneyed insiders don't have enough influence in congress, then term limits is the solution for you.

 

Ultimately, what we need is serious electoral reform so that we stop electing morons and #######, and if we do, we can hold them accountable and remove them from office.

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14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Ignorance runs rampant in congress already. Creating incentives for them to actually *do* something might actually make them take measures to address our problems instead of spending all of their time grandstanding for the cameras.

 

I do not understand your point about the cities and the electoral college. Even if they did away with the Electoral College (which they won't), that would just mean everyone gets one vote that counts just as much as everyone else's in presidential elections. The top 100 cities in the country only contain 20% of the population, clearly not enough for whatever the scenario you're outlining is.

 

Part of the reason there was so much hatred from the beginning with Trump is that he's an ####### who acts like a dick and talks absolute nonsense that shows he has little idea about what he's talking about. He was never an outsider savior, he was always a grifting conman.

 

Also, term limits would be the biggest win for the lobbyists you could ever imagine. If you think the biggest problem right now is that big moneyed insiders don't have enough influence in congress, then term limits is the solution for you.

 

Ultimately, what we need is serious electoral reform so that we stop electing morons and #######, and if we do, we can hold them accountable and remove them from office.

And there it is! Finally Chi Goose admits to being an all-in Trump hater....as opposed to the outside, unbiased arbitrator of facts, and PPP's own Minister of Truth.  Thanks for clearing it up.  I shall read all of your future posts now thru the lenses of TDS colored glasses. 

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