NewEra Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: You and no one else on here knows anything about Josh on a personal level. He seems like a great guy. But money is money. Money is money mega filthy rich is mega filthy rich Whatever contract he signs, he will be mega filthy rich and no one in his extended family will ever have to work again if he chooses. as of now, we have no clue what he’ll do 2
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 Josh will demand 45M a year x 4 year or 180M deal. If he holds out Fromm will be ready!
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Josh will demand 45M a year x 4 year or 180M deal. If he holds out Fromm Trubisky will be ready! FIFY. In all seriousness, not a situation that is going to arise. The Bills will pick up Josh's 5th year option. The Bills will negotiate with his agents this summer, and as Beane said, if both sides aren't comfortable they will revisit. PS hope your boy makes the fullest use of preseason this year, 'cuz be nice if he could be the backup in 2022 1
Ya Digg? Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Why would the NFLPA put pressure on a QB to sign to the max they can get? Don't they also represent the LB's, OL, CB, WR etc that would benefit from larger salaries from QB's taking more team friendly deals? Teams have to spend up to a certain percentage of the cap every year. The money will be spent at other positions ultimately benefiting other players. Sorry but are you really comparing QB to linebackers?? You do thunder stand the difference? If a QB takes a huge discount, there’s no way that anyone else on that team is going to get paid what they are worth. The front office can just go to the next guy and say “Josh took a discount, so you should too.” I’ve stated this over and over, it’s not Josh’s job to make the salary cap work, that’s up to the front office. So let the front office earn their money, just like Josh had earned his 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you think he will play for candy? That'd have to be Some Candy Like this, only more so, plus this
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 6:32 PM, BearNorth said: Josh is repped by Creative Artists Agency, e.g. Hollywood folk. They make their money from the deals they get for their clients. They don't give two figs about salary cap and team chemistry. He will get the top dollar for who ever gets paid that year. Doubt Hollywood sharks will ever take a hometown discount. His agent is Tom Condon. Yes, he's with CAA SPORTS, the sports arm of CAA. They're a regular sports agent group, not "Hollywood folk" or "Hollywood sharks". And no, team chemistry isn't their thing, but they understand salary cap - they have to, to fairly represent NFL clients.
MJS Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 I have a hunch he will sign a team friendly deal. But who knows? Maybe if Beane offers him a big signing bonus and a fully gauarenteed contract he would sign a lower per average deal.
Warcodered Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, MJS said: I have a hunch he will sign a team friendly deal. But who knows? Maybe if Beane offers him a big signing bonus and a fully gauarenteed contract he would sign a lower per average deal. I mean you can't really expect him to do it but from what we here about how competitive he is I think there is a decent chance he'll want his deal to allow Bean to put as many weapons/assets around him as he can. 1
MAJBobby Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 I would love for him to be the 1st player to tie his money to the Cap. 10 years 25% of Cap with 20% guaranteed
MJS Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would love for him to be the 1st player to tie his money to the Cap. 10 years 25% of Cap with 20% guaranteed This would probably not be the year we see a deal like that given that the cap just went down.
BigDingus Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 Now that Dak is getting $40 million a year, Josh's agent won't let him take less regardless of how much he likes the city.
MAJBobby Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 10 hours ago, MJS said: This would probably not be the year we see a deal like that given that the cap just went down. But it wouldn’t take effect until after his rookie deal meaning cap up. So 50M AAV when kicks in.
DCofNC Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 What would be cool is if he took a first of its kind deal where he gets a portion of the salary cap. I wrote out a possible scenario once, but something to the effect of a 10 year deal, he gets a 40M signing bonus, guaranteed money the first 3 years, he is locked to getting 16% of the salary cap for the team each year of the deal as his base pay, with incentives around, MVP, Playoff appearances, SB appearances, etc. He gets PAID, 40M to start, plus 29.12M based on this years cap, and presumably a base around 32 for next year, 34 the year after, and guessing but 35ish after that, all guaranteed so that gives him over $160M guaranteed in the first 3 years, plus he’s got an escalating contract by default with the cap, so he will never be playing for way too little. For the Bills, they get to know exactly what they can work with vs the cap, its always 4M (signing bonus be the cap), plus the percentage they agree to. If the cap explodes, he gets a better and better deal where it could easily exceed Maholmes, if it stays around where it is, the team has a little more to work with to keep competitive. If for whatever reason, he flips after the deal, it’s an easy out for the Bills the longer the deal carries out. Obviously, the numbers aren’t perfect, but something close to that could really work well for everyone.
MJS Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Nester said: $40m seems as team friendly as it’s going to get. But that's just a guess like all the other numbers people have thrown out. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, DCofNC said: What would be cool is if he took a first of its kind deal where he gets a portion of the salary cap. I wrote out a possible scenario once, but something to the effect of a 10 year deal, he gets a 40M signing bonus, guaranteed money the first 3 years, he is locked to getting 16% of the salary cap for the team each year of the deal as his base pay, with incentives around, MVP, Playoff appearances, SB appearances, etc. He gets PAID, 40M to start, plus 29.12M based on this years cap, and presumably a base around 32 for next year, 34 the year after, and guessing but 35ish after that, all guaranteed so that gives him over $160M guaranteed in the first 3 years, plus he’s got an escalating contract by default with the cap, so he will never be playing for way too little. For the Bills, they get to know exactly what they can work with vs the cap, its always 4M (signing bonus be the cap), plus the percentage they agree to. If the cap explodes, he gets a better and better deal where it could easily exceed Maholmes, if it stays around where it is, the team has a little more to work with to keep competitive. If for whatever reason, he flips after the deal, it’s an easy out for the Bills the longer the deal carries out. Obviously, the numbers aren’t perfect, but something close to that could really work well for everyone. I wonder if the NFLPA or NFL have any restrictions on this kind of deal? It seems like an intriguing option
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 Team friendly like the one mahomes signed? Yes. 1
sirebors Posted March 27, 2021 Author Posted March 27, 2021 22 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: 1. Brady at age 43 doesn't dictate the salaries of young franchise QBs The NFLPA has long held this position and prioritized max dollar deals without regard for it's affect on other players. I'm not talking about Brady at age 43. Tom Brady average salary 2005-2010. $10,700,000 2010-2014. $18,000,000 2013-2017. $13,667,000 2015-2017. $9,000,000 2016-2019. $20,500,000 2018-2019. $15,000,000 2019. $23,000,000 His salary actually went down dramatically for a number of years. And it was never close to being one of the top QB salaries in the league. For possibly the best quarterback in history who won Superbowl in the following years. 2002, 2004, 2005, 2015, 2017, 2019, and 2021
sirebors Posted March 27, 2021 Author Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 12:41 PM, JaCrispy said: 10yr/$350 million...fully guaranteed! 👍 I would take this in a heartbeat. As a fan. As Allen. And quite possibly as Beane if he's willing to roll the dice. 1
longtimebillsfan Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 6 hours ago, BigDingus said: Now that Dak is getting $40 million a year, Josh's agent won't let him take less regardless of how much he likes the city. IMHO that doesn't sound like Josh. He is a team first guy. He will take care if himself with an eye on helping the team. He saw the results of Brady helping the Pat's with his salary.
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