PromoTheRobot Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ever look at some of Mel's draft reports from year's past? Ever follow-up on some of his predictions? I could have his same record of picking drafts if I used a dart board. So don't flip out if TD picks a guy Mel Kiper had rated low, or doesn't pick a guy he rates high. Because the odds are 50-50 he's right anyway. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 He knows everything about hair products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 He knows everything about hair products. 316751[/snapback] I'll say. His 'doo looks like it was made in an injection mold! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 kiper needs more cowbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Kiper has certainly lost his edge. He is such a part of the 'establishment" now that he has become very vanilla. Backing this up one needs to only look at the video montage they did of his "best moments" There was nothing on there from the last 10 years. I much prefer Mike Mayock from the NFL Total Access show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Here's Kiper's bio. He's a community college product who watches lots of football on satellite. Pretty impressive. Mel Kiper Jr. ESPN Football Analyst Mel Kiper Jr. has served as an expert analyst for ESPN's annual NFL draft coverage since 1984, providing in-depth information on the nation's most talented college football players. His pre-draft predictions are frequently the most accurate in the business, often as much as 80 percent correct on first-round selections. He also has a Web page (www.espn.go.com/melkiper), linked off of ESPN.com, that launched in 2000. Kiper is also analyst for "College GameDay" on ESPN Radio, 11 a.m.-7 p.m. Saturdays throughout the season. Additionally, he is a frequent contributor to ESPN's award-winning "SportsCenter" during the NFL and college football seasons and provides occasional updates throughout the year. Kiper is president of Kiper Enterprises, which he founded in 1981 while in college. It is responsible for all aspects of a series of annual publications including the "NFL Draft Report" and "Draft Preview." His continuous, yearlong research is aided by an office equipped with satellite dishes allowing him to pick up 20 to 25 college games each week. This adds to his in-depth knowledge gathered from lengthy discussions with coaches, players and team executives. Kiper, born July 25, 1960, attended Essex Community College in Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Anyone who can make a career out of playing or watching football (or any sport) has my admiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3x Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ever look at some of Mel's draft reports from year's past? Ever follow-up on some of his predictions? I could have his same record of picking drafts if I used a dart board. So don't flip out if TD picks a guy Mel Kiper had rated low, or doesn't pick a guy he rates high. Because the odds are 50-50 he's right anyway. PTR 316744[/snapback] BURN THE HERETIC!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 The main thing I don't like about Kiper's Draft Report is that he pumps up each guy's profile with a rehash of his career and gives very little data on his strengths & weaknesses. It's what guys like dave Te' Thomas call a comic book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Here's Kiper's bio. He's a community college product who watches lots of football on satellite. Pretty impressive. Mel Kiper Jr. ESPN Football Analyst Mel Kiper Jr. has served as an expert analyst for ESPN's annual NFL draft coverage since 1984, providing in-depth information on the nation's most talented college football players. His pre-draft predictions are frequently the most accurate in the business, often as much as 80 percent correct on first-round selections. He also has a Web page (www.espn.go.com/melkiper), linked off of ESPN.com, that launched in 2000. Kiper is also analyst for "College GameDay" on ESPN Radio, 11 a.m.-7 p.m. Saturdays throughout the season. Additionally, he is a frequent contributor to ESPN's award-winning "SportsCenter" during the NFL and college football seasons and provides occasional updates throughout the year. Kiper is president of Kiper Enterprises, which he founded in 1981 while in college. It is responsible for all aspects of a series of annual publications including the "NFL Draft Report" and "Draft Preview." His continuous, yearlong research is aided by an office equipped with satellite dishes allowing him to pick up 20 to 25 college games each week. This adds to his in-depth knowledge gathered from lengthy discussions with coaches, players and team executives. Kiper, born July 25, 1960, attended Essex Community College in Baltimore. 317028[/snapback] So. It's entertainment man. I suppose all the NFL scouts have PhD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ever look at some of Mel's draft reports from year's past? Ever follow-up on some of his predictions? I could have his same record of picking drafts if I used a dart board. So don't flip out if TD picks a guy Mel Kiper had rated low, or doesn't pick a guy he rates high. Because the odds are 50-50 he's right anyway. PTR 316744[/snapback] He made a good call on Rogers going into a free fall if Miami didn't take him and made that prediction last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 So. It's entertainment man. I suppose all the NFL scouts have PhD's 317244[/snapback] Yeah, but it's too much fun to be cynical about his self-described qualifications to be a draft guru. I mean, he lists the fact that he has satellite tv and watches 20-25 games per week. I'll bet a lot of people on this board beat that. In his resume, he lists nothing about playing, coaching or scouting for any football team at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Yeah, but it's too much fun to be cynical about his self-described qualifications to be a draft guru. I mean, he lists the fact that he has satellite tv and watches 20-25 games per week. I'll bet a lot of people on this board beat that. In his resume, he lists nothing about playing, coaching or scouting for any football team at any level. 317279[/snapback] I had a lot of respect for the late Joel Buschbaum, and so did a lot of other NFL personnel men. He was the geekiest guy you ever saw, but he made a lot of good calls watching tapes in his apartment. It's still about gut feel and intangibles, and nobody has a monopoly on that yet...including the NFL. Just look at all the bonehead picks made each year by the "professionals." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Eric Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 kiper needs more cowbell 316759[/snapback] LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 i like Mel Kiper. so he is 50/50 on his reports at best. have you looked at the Bills last few drafts? I like Tom Donahoe too but I would take 50/50 over the TD's ratio from the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Ever look at some of Mel's draft reports from year's past? Ever follow-up on some of his predictions? I could have his same record of picking drafts if I used a dart board. So don't flip out if TD picks a guy Mel Kiper had rated low, or doesn't pick a guy he rates high. Because the odds are 50-50 he's right anyway. PTR 316744[/snapback] Hey, he knew Trev Alberts was a baaaaaaaadddddd pick. Mel's a God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Kiper can easily recite 40 times, bench presses and other measurable stats, but he cannot attend the combine, have the players in for private workouts or spend the millions of dollars the NFL teams spend on scouting. No NFL teams read his report to decide who to take. He brags that he predicted 75 or 80 % of the first round, but who couldn't? By the time the draft comes around, everybody knows who the top players are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Hey, he knew Trev Alberts was a baaaaaaaadddddd pick. Mel's a God! 317329[/snapback] He also thought Dilfer was all world, worthy of a top 10 pick????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Matt Millen follows Kiper's ratings and evaluations to a tee - which is why the Lions pick in the top ten ever year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Matt Millen follows Kiper's ratings and evaluations to a tee - which is why the Lions pick in the top ten ever year. 317377[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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