zow2 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Let me start by saying I'm thrilled with the win.. I couldn't even sleep last night. Just an unreal season and it's still going. One thing that bothered me. and this is the 2nd time under McDermott in a high wind game (happened vs. Philly last year i believe). Even though we WON the coin toss we somehow allowed our opponent to have the wind at their backs in the 2nd and 4th quarters. Can someone explain how that happened? That can't be allowed to happen. The 2nd and 4th are the two most important quarters because they are more drawn out. There are timeouts, 2-minute warning, etc.. Teams usually go up tempo before the end of halves and there are more plays. There are usually last second FG attempts at the end of 2nd Qtr and end of games. The 1st and 3rd quarters are usually fast and end quickly. We basically had one possession in the 3rd quarter with the wind and scored a TD with it.. Fortunately Taron Johnson gave us a second TD in that Qtr. If it was a close game, Baltimore would have had the wind and better chance to kick a game winning FG at the buzzer. I need to understand why McD has allowed this to happen in such a big game. 1 1
prissythecat Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 The team who lost the coin toss typically gets the chance to choose which side to play on... 3 1
DaaBills Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 I dunno I trust the dude, if that's what he wants I'm ok with it. 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Analytics Department was down: So they went with: 3 2
Numark3 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 He chose to get the ball to start the half. We got a TD that drive... 5 1 3
NewEra Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, zow2 said: Let me start by saying I'm thrilled with the win.. I couldn't even sleep last night. Just an unreal season and it's still going. One thing that bothered me. and this is the 2nd time under McDermott in a high wind game (happened vs. Philly last year i believe). Even though we WON the coin toss we somehow allowed our opponent to have the wind at their backs in the 2nd and 4th quarters. Can someone explain how that happened? That can't be allowed to happen. The 2nd and 4th are the two most important quarters because they are more drawn out. There are timeouts, 2-minute warning, etc.. Teams usually go up tempo before the end of halves and there are more plays. There are usually last second FG attempts at the end of 2nd Qtr and end of games. The 1st and 3rd quarters are usually fast and end quickly. We basically had one possession in the 3rd quarter with the wind and scored a TD with it.. Fortunately Taron Johnson gave us a second TD in that Qtr. If it was a close game, Baltimore would have had the wind and better chance to kick a game winning FG at the buzzer. I need to understand why McD has allowed this to happen in such a big game. We wanted the ball at the half. What’s so hard to understand. YOU prioritized the wind over the ball at the half. McD doesn’t. You don’t NEED to understand anything. You SHOULD get over it and move on with your life 💯 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: He chose to get the ball to start the half. We got a TD that drive... But but but. mcd >> @zow2 1
uninja Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, DaaBills said: I dunno I trust the dude, if that's what he wants I'm ok with it. Agree, at this point McDermott has earned the benefit of the doubt. He’s been sharp AF on most of his head coaching decisions this year. 2
ehfeuh57 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 I agree with the poster Also you can choose the wind and still get the ball to start the 2nd half by chance 1
NewEra Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, DrDare said: I agree with the poster Also you can choose the wind and still get the ball to start the 2nd half by chance We won. McDermott made the right choice. Prove him wrong 2
JMF2006 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Its a tough call to defer but it did payoff. The 4th Quarter timing rules stop the game clock on OB plays in the final 5 minutes. The second quarter isn't as bad as its only in the final 2 minutes.
TH3 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, DrDare said: I agree with the poster Also you can choose the wind and still get the ball to start the 2nd half by chance Bills won the game....no one knows what would have happened had Ravens come out in third and gone ahead....probably be lamenting not deferring
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 50 minutes ago, zow2 said: Let me start by saying I'm thrilled with the win.. I couldn't even sleep last night. Just an unreal season and it's still going. One thing that bothered me. and this is the 2nd time under McDermott in a high wind game (happened vs. Philly last year i believe). Even though we WON the coin toss we somehow allowed our opponent to have the wind at their backs in the 2nd and 4th quarters. Can someone explain how that happened? That can't be allowed to happen. The 2nd and 4th are the two most important quarters because they are more drawn out. There are timeouts, 2-minute warning, etc.. Teams usually go up tempo before the end of halves and there are more plays. There are usually last second FG attempts at the end of 2nd Qtr and end of games. The 1st and 3rd quarters are usually fast and end quickly. We basically had one possession in the 3rd quarter with the wind and scored a TD with it.. Fortunately Taron Johnson gave us a second TD in that Qtr. If it was a close game, Baltimore would have had the wind and better chance to kick a game winning FG at the buzzer. I need to understand why McD has allowed this to happen in such a big game. I am confused as to how the coin toss works. If you win the toss and you defer, do you lose the option of picking direction?
Bob in STL Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Let me start by saying I'm thrilled with the win.. I couldn't even sleep last night. Just an unreal season and it's still going. One thing that bothered me. and this is the 2nd time under McDermott in a high wind game (happened vs. Philly last year i believe). Even though we WON the coin toss we somehow allowed our opponent to have the wind at their backs in the 2nd and 4th quarters. Can someone explain how that happened? That can't be allowed to happen. The 2nd and 4th are the two most important quarters because they are more drawn out. There are timeouts, 2-minute warning, etc.. Teams usually go up tempo before the end of halves and there are more plays. There are usually last second FG attempts at the end of 2nd Qtr and end of games. The 1st and 3rd quarters are usually fast and end quickly. We basically had one possession in the 3rd quarter with the wind and scored a TD with it.. Fortunately Taron Johnson gave us a second TD in that Qtr. If it was a close game, Baltimore would have had the wind and better chance to kick a game winning FG at the buzzer. I need to understand why McD has allowed this to happen in such a big game. You do not get to select both the ball and the goal defended. Win the toss and pick one, or defer to second half. Edited January 17, 2021 by Bob in STL
The Jokeman Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am confused as to how the coin toss works. If you win the toss and you defer, do you lose the option of picking direction? Not more than three minutes before the kickoff of the first half, the Referee, in the presence of both team’s captains (limit of six per team, active, inactive or honorary) shall toss a coin at the center of the field. Prior to the Referee’s toss, the call of “heads” or “tails” must be made by the captain of the visiting team, or by the captain designated by the Referee if there is no home team. Unless the winner of the toss defers his choice to the second half, he must choose one of two privileges, and the loser is given the other. The two privileges are: (a) The opportunity to receive the kickoff, or to kick off; or (b) The choice of goal his team will defend. 1
Beerball Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, zow2 said: Let me start by saying I'm thrilled with the win.. I couldn't even sleep last night. Just an unreal season and it's still going. One thing that bothered me. and this is the 2nd time under McDermott in a high wind game (happened vs. Philly last year i believe). Even though we WON the coin toss we somehow allowed our opponent to have the wind at their backs in the 2nd and 4th quarters. Can someone explain how that happened? That can't be allowed to happen. The 2nd and 4th are the two most important quarters because they are more drawn out. There are timeouts, 2-minute warning, etc.. Teams usually go up tempo before the end of halves and there are more plays. There are usually last second FG attempts at the end of 2nd Qtr and end of games. The 1st and 3rd quarters are usually fast and end quickly. We basically had one possession in the 3rd quarter with the wind and scored a TD with it.. Fortunately Taron Johnson gave us a second TD in that Qtr. If it was a close game, Baltimore would have had the wind and better chance to kick a game winning FG at the buzzer. I need to understand why McD has allowed this to happen in such a big game. What would you have him do? If he takes the ball the Ravens (I believe) choose which way they want to kick to open the game. If they defer the Ravens (I believe) chose which way they want to kick to open the game. Irregardless...Tucker sucked so I'm good with it.
prissythecat Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am confused as to how the coin toss works. If you win the toss and you defer, do you lose the option of picking direction? Thats right. You only get to pick one option after winning the coin toss. Imagine what an advantage it would be if you could choose receive/defer as well as which goal to defend. 1
Beerball Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Thats right. You only get to pick one option after winning the coin toss. Imagine what an advantage it would be if you could choose receive/defer as well as which goal to defend. So, McD's mistake was winning the toss. He's an idiot. 2
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Parcels sometimes would play with the wind an d put his defense on the field first in the first quarter. The thought was to get a first quarter lead with the opponent battling the wind and Lawrence Taylor. 1
Albany,n.y. Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Parcels sometimes would play with the wind an d put his defense on the field first in the first quarter. The thought was to get a first quarter lead with the opponent battling the wind and Lawrence Taylor. When you're playing a team that is a run 1st pass 2nd and is known to have a tough time coming back when they get behind, you want to get them playing from behind ASAP. Now the Bills scored only 3 in the 1st half, but by the time Baltimore got the wind in the 4th quarter the game was basically over, especially after Jackson went out. The problem with the OP is one size doesn't fit all. You don't mind Baltimore, which has a hard time coming back getting the wind in the 4th quarter, but you wouldn't want to face Mahomes with a wind advantage in the 4th quarter even with a 14 point lead. 1
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