TheFunPolice Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Lamar was not going to get to Taron. White was in between the 2. No chance of success and he did us a favor not taking a big hit that could lead to some sort of flag negating the TD.
Bookie Man Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Do you guys remember when Shawn Merriman hurt himself coming out of the tunnel for the season opener vs KC? He was doing some kind rendition of his lights out dance. And you could tell he tweaked something. He played about 2 or 3 plays to save face before taking himself out of the game.
TroutDog Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 7 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: Buffalo Bills on Twitter: "TARON JOHNSON PICK SIX‼️ 📺 #BALvsBUF: https://t.co/VqXMJDH1vI https://t.co/WjuPWerVod" / Twitter Best resolution is at ;55 Click that link and then watch the first reaction below by ‘Joe Cam’. His daughter was recording a Tic-Toc and you can hear him in the back doing exactly what I (and, probably, most of us did). Absolutely classic!
Rochesterfan Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Exhibit A: Josh pulling a fumbled snap from the pile and fighting for a first down vs Cam Newton balking on jumping on a loose ball in clear space leading to a turnover. Jackson should have at least tried to shove the blocker towards Taron. Could have gotten lucky and tripped him up or forced him out of bounds or something. You don't give up on a play like that, especially in the playoffs. He wasn't even in a position to get lit up or blindsided for trying to make the play. I actually agree and think with his speed - Jackson actually had the ability to sprint ahead earlier and make his way to the sideline to force a cutback. I get the self preservation, but I do not think he gave it his all and this comes after the pregame comments about how he has never used his full speed - just looks a bit bad to me. I have watched Jackson several times with the ball look like the fastest athlete on the field, but that play he looked like he was just trying to find a way to get it over with and the cut up field behind Taron and essentially give up the TD was all self preservation- even a full dive straight in front of Tre maybe gets Johnson to slide out of bounds. The play like this earlier in the season - DK Metcalf gave his all to make a play and prevent a TD on a potential pick 6 showing another level of speed, but Jackson sort of made a Minimal effort in a playoff game.
FireChans Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I actually agree and think with his speed - Jackson actually had the ability to sprint ahead earlier and make his way to the sideline to force a cutback. I get the self preservation, but I do not think he gave it his all and this comes after the pregame comments about how he has never used his full speed - just looks a bit bad to me. I have watched Jackson several times with the ball look like the fastest athlete on the field, but that play he looked like he was just trying to find a way to get it over with and the cut up field behind Taron and essentially give up the TD was all self preservation- even a full dive straight in front of Tre maybe gets Johnson to slide out of bounds. The play like this earlier in the season - DK Metcalf gave his all to make a play and prevent a TD on a potential pick 6 showing another level of speed, but Jackson sort of made a Minimal effort in a playoff game. I'm not sure you've ever tried to go through a blocker to make a tackle. It's not easy. DK had no blockers in front of him. 1
Rochesterfan Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: I'm not sure you've ever tried to go through a blocker to make a tackle. It's not easy. DK had no blockers in front of him. Did it all through College. Jackson did not need to make the tackle - he needed to try and at least force a cut back inside. This happens all the time on kick returns where a guy breaks contain - the pursuit has to try and work ahead to cut off the front side or the sideline and force things back to the rest of the pursuit. Jackson early on had the speed to make his pursuit work, but Johnson did a great job letting Tre get in front of him and Poyer cleaned up the back pursuit. I would not expect Jackson to necessarily take on Tre, but if as they are running - Jackson dives across in front without taking on the block you at least have a chance. The stopping and cutting under gave no shot at making a stop.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Lamar could have moved heaven and earth and not gotten through Tre on that one. Tre's a strong mofo.
Warcodered Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: There wasn't anything Jackson could do to catch Johnson with Tre giving Johnson an escort. Sure he's fast, but hardly the type to run through someone to make a play I mean it's a long shot he stops him but also maybe he gets lucky and gets a penalty from Tre on the block. Got to at least try it's the playoffs. Edited January 17, 2021 by Warcodered 1
Warcodered Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, finn said: I was impressed by Trevarious White's speed on that play. He looked like he could have run right past Taron if he wanted. Trevarious White is quite fast, when did we sign that guy?
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Johnson has got credited with a 101 yard return tying the post season record. While there's no yard markers in the endzone which makes to tough to judge, looking at the replays to me it looks like he was more than one yard deep. I do wonder if in a couple days as they go through and update stats, I wonder if it might get changed to a 102 yard return thus setting the record. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Great find. Yes it's pretty clear he at least got a small piece of that ball, but I think Johnson was there to intercept it, regardless. 1
JESSEFEFFER Posted January 17, 2021 Author Posted January 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Johnson has got credited with a 101 yard return tying the post season record. While there's no yard markers in the endzone which makes to tough to judge, looking at the replays to me it looks like he was more than one yard deep. I do wonder if in a couple days as they go through and update stats, I wonder if it might get changed to a 102 yard return thus setting the record. First touch may have been 1 yard deep but his momentum carried him further into the EZ with his next two steps. I think you are correct and by the time the process of the catch was officially completed he was at least two yards deep.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, JESSEFEFFER said: First touch may have been 1 yard deep but his momentum carried him further into the EZ with his next two steps. I think you are correct and by the time the process of the catch was officially completed he was at least two yards deep. Yeah did look like he went backwards some. May be the stats are based off where first touched?? No idea?
NewEra Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Did it all through College. Jackson did not need to make the tackle - he needed to try and at least force a cut back inside. This happens all the time on kick returns where a guy breaks contain - the pursuit has to try and work ahead to cut off the front side or the sideline and force things back to the rest of the pursuit. Jackson early on had the speed to make his pursuit work, but Johnson did a great job letting Tre get in front of him and Poyer cleaned up the back pursuit. I would not expect Jackson to necessarily take on Tre, but if as they are running - Jackson dives across in front without taking on the block you at least have a chance. The stopping and cutting under gave no shot at making a stop. This is your opinion and you’re certainly entitled to it. After watching it 473924 times. I disagree. He IS really fast. He’s not THAT fast
In Summary Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Jackson in a tough spot. That said, this is how you defend an interception: 1
3rdand12 Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, In Summary said: Jackson in a tough spot. That said, this is how you defend an interception: oh gosh that's gross. But yes. That is how you play to win ! BTW I am big Fan of Zimmer. he keeps getting better i feel. Keeper Go Bills
Augie Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 6 hours ago, whatdrought said: I’m not sure if the tip made much of a difference... Lamar essentially used a fountain pen to write a letter, seal it with wax, and have it hand delivered by a courier telling Taron exactly where the ball was going. I thought letters written with fountain pens and sealed with wax left the league when Captain Andrew Luck retired! That was some funny stuff. 1
Big Turk Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 Not surprising, Zimmer might be the most athletic DT not named Donald in the NFL 1
Doc Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Not surprising, Zimmer might be the most athletic DT not named Donald in the NFL There was an article claiming he was the most athletic 300# DT to come into the league in 15 years.
RiotAct Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Stranded in Boston said: Lamar Jackson is a terrific player, but he surprisingly gave up chasing Taron at the Bills 30. Sure, maybe he figured Tre was going to screen him off anyhow, or he wanted to save it for the next series -- blah, blah. But everybody here who's watched Josh the last 3 years knows that Josh would have run down Taron -- or died trying. Sometimes it's not so hard to measure heart. how about that one offensive tackle... #78. Seemed like he had a good chance at Taron but no effort whatsoever.
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