YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Posted January 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Fascinated by this hire. Am led to believe Scott Linehan is his first choice for OC and he was in on Dan Quinn for DC before he signed with Dallas. That is noteworthy because both Linehan and Dan Quinn were on Nick Saban's first staff in Miami. I haven’t heard anything about OC. He has offered the DC position to Greg Mattison. He will likely take it but if not Chris Ash is his 2nd choice. He has offered his DL coach position to Charlie strong. Mattison has had NfL experience with Harbaugh/Ravens but it’s been over a decade. Thought he could go more nfl heavy on assistants. I expect a run at Harry Heistand as OL coach
RyanC883 Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He and Vrabel loathe each other so that should be great theater twice a year what caused the loathing?
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: what caused the loathing? Urban was a jerk to his buddy Luke Fickell. Per source, Vrabel attacked him by the throat (this was when he worked for him for that one year as DL coach) Edited January 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 1
Nick the Greek Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, Big Turk said: What long term College coach other than Pete Carroll has had any real recent success in the NFL? Doug Marrone? 🤔 1
sullim4 Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I tend to agree with most on here. I think Urban Meyer is in for a rude awakening in the NFL... the job is completely different in the pros as compared to college. Steve Spurrier's run in Washington is what I imagine Jacksonville will look like over the next couple of seasons.
FireChans Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, Augie said: If I’m one of the dozen Jags fans, I’m NOT excited by this. You can’t “out-recruit” because of the Jags name in the NFL. It’s the pros, new ballgame. He might be just fine, but how long is he going to last? His track record says not all that long before he’s retired again, for whatever reason. NEVER in a million years would I trade McD for Meyer. I feel like we have a real and long term solution. They have a short term big splash, IMO. McD wasn’t available tho. It’s not like they had that choice. Let alone it took McD three years to cement himself as a real and long term solution.
Charles Romes Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Good - let that whole division beat each other up every year.
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Posted January 15, 2021 This whole thing reminds of when Hayden Fox went to coach the Breakers. 1
Saxum Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, Doc said: My son was saying that because they hired Meyer, they are actually entertaining taking Justin Felds first overall. I laughed. Certainly possible if someone trades him a bunch of picks. I am sure he got inside info on him from his protégé Ryan Day. https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-planner-does-meyers-arrival-with-jaguars-open-the-door-at-all-for-justin-fields-at-1-201638004.html Personally I think a lot of players for Ohio State have been overrated due to level of coaching. We heard similar things about "Wrong" Josh which we have heard about Lawrence. If he does it he will probably sign Lawrence and then trade him for picks on draft day to ensure he gets is one he wants. It would be a bad start to trade #1 pick (although high chance he will have #1 pick next year as well) and then not get the player he wants.
y2zipper Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Urban Meyer has a really good history as a program builder and this is a pretty good choice, especially considering that college coaches transitioning to the NFL is a more viable idea than ever. Matt rule and Cliff Kingsbury are currently in the NFL, Pete Carroll is the obvious success story from college, Doug Marrone has had some NFL success too. On top of that it's quite the underrated job because you have a strong owner that's willing to spend money and give people time, the consensus best quarterback prospect in a while, and the next cap space where you don't have to take a year to completely tear everything down. I don't know if this will work, but I definitely think this is the right type of hire for Jacksonville. 1
HappyDays Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: 2021 Hard Knocks? 1st year head coaches can't be on the show. I'll be shocked if it isn't the Cowboys. Too many storylines in a big market for HBO to ignore.
Doc Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, FireChans said: McD wasn’t available tho. It’s not like they had that choice. Let alone it took McD three years to cement himself as a real and long term solution. That's how long it usually takes coaches. If they ever do. 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Certainly possible if someone trades him a bunch of picks. I am sure he got inside info on him from his protégé Ryan Day. https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-planner-does-meyers-arrival-with-jaguars-open-the-door-at-all-for-justin-fields-at-1-201638004.html Personally I think a lot of players for Ohio State have been overrated due to level of coaching. We heard similar things about "Wrong" Josh which we have heard about Lawrence. If he does it he will probably sign Lawrence and then trade him for picks on draft day to ensure he gets is one he wants. It would be a bad start to trade #1 pick (although high chance he will have #1 pick next year as well) and then not get the player he wants. I can't see it. Lawrence is a consensus "generational QB" and taking him first overall wouldn't be a risk because if he fails, it's because he failed, not the Jags.
Saxum Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: I can't see it. Lawrence is a consensus "generational QB" and taking him first overall wouldn't be a risk because if he fails, it's because he failed, not the Jags. Consensus "generational QBs" are the type of players a team can get "Herschel Walker" type boatload of picks which can transform a franchise.
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 1st year head coaches can't be on the show. I'll be shocked if it isn't the Cowboys. Too many storylines in a big market for HBO to ignore. That would be super boring 1
Doc Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Consensus "generational QBs" are the type of players a team can get "Herschel Walker" type boatload of picks which can transform a franchise. Maybe. But the Cowboys would have been nowhere without getting Aikman, which had nothing to do with HW.
FireChans Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 1st year head coaches can't be on the show. I'll be shocked if it isn't the Cowboys. Too many storylines in a big market for HBO to ignore. Yes they can.
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Fascinated by this hire. Am led to believe Scott Linehan is his first choice for OC and he was in on Dan Quinn for DC before he signed with Dallas. That is noteworthy because both Linehan and Dan Quinn were on Nick Saban's first staff in Miami. 1
HappyDays Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yes they can. Did they change the rule? Last year the rule was you can't be on if you have a 1st year head coach, or have been in the playoffs within the last 2 seasons, or have already been on the show within the last 10 years. Under those rules it's Cowboys, Giants, Broncos, or Cardinals. Edited January 15, 2021 by HappyDays
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