Backintheday544 Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh for real?* They shot down a promise to maintain the Republic they fake care about? Fascinating. *If you believe they actually did shoot it down and McConnell surrendered the Senate and the Republic away without an actual deal you're an idiot. They aren't making it public. How can we prove it? Wait 6 months. If it's still there, they made a deal. You may want to go back and learn about how the government works. We will know if a deal is reached when they pass the organizing resolution. McConnell wanted to include in the Senate's rules a guarantee that there would be no effort to pursue the "nuclear option" — changing the rules with a simple majority rather than the higher 60- or 67-vote threshold — during the next two years, or as long as the 50-50 split lasted. Democrats said no. If that language gets in the organizing resolution then we will know they reached a deal to not use the legislative filibuster. 2
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said: You may want to go back and learn about how the government works. You may want to catch up on how politics works. #Leverage #BackRoomDeals #PinkySwear #WinkWink I'm sure Schumer doesn't want to throw away the leverage he has in nuking the country I mean filibuster (even tho Manchin and probably others are a no). Everything in DC is compromise (K street bribes which is why they really don't want to kill it anyway). But you really think the only thing the Rs did here was achieve giving Trump "time" to set up his legal defense (which should take 10 minutes). What did they really get in this "deal?" Odd they mentioned the filibuster but that was "shot down." Why was that leaked to the press? So now we know it was discussed. 1
SoTier Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Because he got Chuckie to agree to not end the Republic by killing the filibuster. Then, Mitch will let the Ds make complete fools of themselves by trying to claim Trump led an actual insurrection. Mitch gets the month plus away from the event for reality to set in that everything is stupid (I've always said Libs make the egregious mistake of thinking that just because you see events happen in real time that opinon is also formed in that moment). A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on. But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten. ROTFLMAO. Once again, get your head out of your butt. Killing the filibuster in the US Senate would hardly "end the Republic". However, it surely would have ended if Trump had succeeded in his coup attempts. 1 1
Doc Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 23 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: I wouldn’t mind if he ran in 2024. He’s a twice impeached president who was easily beaten by a super old, not always there, terrible past candidate in Biden. Dems could run a sh*t sandwich in 2024 and beat Trump easily again. And Dems said no to the filibuster demands: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535197-democrats-shoot-down-mcconnells-filibuster-gambit The problem is that it's unlikely another CCP virus will hit in 2024. And if it does, it will hurt Joe this time.
Thurmal34 Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Doc said: The problem is that it's unlikely another CCP virus will hit in 2024. And if it does, it will hurt Joe this time. I feel like this is the quote. Yes Trump is a child and moron, but any trumptard that thinks they are hurting Trump's adversary WHILE boosting trump is a double bonus of watching. 2
Doc Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: I feel like this is the quote. Yes Trump is a child and moron, but any trumptard that thinks they are hurting Trump's adversary WHILE boosting trump is a double bonus of watching. My statement was mostly about how Trump was beaten by a senile moron like Joe only because of CCP virus. Joe is a one-termer, at best. I don't see Trump having much support in 2024 as a candidate.
B-Man Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Democrat Prospects of Convicting Trump in Senate Fade Away Associated Press, by Mary Clare Jalonick & Lisa Mascaro https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/01/25/democrat_prospects_of_convicting_trump_in_senate_fade_away_145115.html 1 1
B-Man Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 If You Thought the First Impeachment Was a Circus, Just Wait for Impeachment 2.0. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/01/25/if-you-thought-the-first-impeachment-was-a-circus-just-wait-for-impeachment-2-0-n1409656
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: If You Thought the First Impeachment Was a Circus, Just Wait for Impeachment 2.0. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/01/25/if-you-thought-the-first-impeachment-was-a-circus-just-wait-for-impeachment-2-0-n1409656 Bored? ATOP no longer appealing? 1
Wacka Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Bill of Attainder = UNCONSTITIONAL. Trump is no longer the pres, so any attempt to try him by Congress is UNCONSTITIONAL. Edited January 26, 2021 by Wacka
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bill of Attainder = UNCONSTITIONAL. Trump is no longer the pres, so any attempt to try him by Congress is UNCONSTITIONAL. How utterly absurd to even consider that a president has a constitutional right to commit crimes before leaving office and not be held accountable because there is not enough time to hold impeachment and conviction proceedings. This type of garbage is why honest, moral people hate lawyers. If this is the law then we need to immediately begin rewriting the Constitution and if we are going to let's go ahead and make many other needed changes: drastically limit the right to own guns, make it clear corporations are not people, make it clear money is not speech, enshrine people's control over their bodies, strengthen the separation of church and state. Conservatives are craven menaces to society. 1
wnyguy Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bill of Attainder = UNCONSTITIONAL. Trump is no longer the pres, so any attempt to try him by Congress is UNCONSTITIONAL. But if they go ahead and impeach a former President then it stands to reason that any former President can and should face impeachment. Obama, are you seeing this? 1 1
Backintheday544 Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 McConnell drops filibuster guarantee in the new Senate rules: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnell-renews-calls-filibuster-remain-after-2-dems-back-measure-n1255619 9 minutes ago, wnyguy said: But if they go ahead and impeach a former President then it stands to reason that any former President can and should face impeachment. Obama, are you seeing this? If Obama were to have done something that is an impeachable offense that occurred in his 8 years as President and it comes to light now, I don’t think anyone would have an issue of that. Republicans though love to use impeachment to just file up their base. They had many calls to impeach Obama during his actual Presidency and none were worth while. Hell, they are trying to impeach Biden already. 3 1
wnyguy Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: McConnell drops filibuster guarantee in the new Senate rules: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnell-renews-calls-filibuster-remain-after-2-dems-back-measure-n1255619 If Obama were to have done something that is an impeachable offense that occurred in his 8 years as President and it comes to light now, I don’t think anyone would have an issue of that. Republicans though love to use impeachment to just file up their base. They had many calls to impeach Obama during his actual Presidency and none were worth while. Hell, they are trying to impeach Biden already. Constitution Shmonstitution amirite?
Big Blitz Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Told you. Vote was 55-45. History isn't judged in real time just because you can watch it live. No one cares about this sham needed to distract from Biden’s super plan (as in there isn't one) to take on the pAnDeMiC On 1/23/2021 at 3:39 PM, Big Blitz said: A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on. But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten.
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Told you. Vote was 55-45. History isn't judged in real time just because you can watch it live. No one cares about this sham needed to distract from Biden’s super plan (as in there isn't one) to take on the pAnDeMiC 1
BillStime Posted January 26, 2021 Author Posted January 26, 2021 Someone needs to be held accountable for January 6. There will be no forgive and forget - people died and numerous injured. 1 1
Doc Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Told you. Vote was 55-45. History isn't judged in real time just because you can watch it live. No one cares about this sham needed to distract from Biden’s super plan (as in there isn't one) to take on the pAnDeMiC Yet they'll still go through with it because they just don't learn.
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