HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: It was a LOT more than a select few, and they were most certainly in a restricted area they have NO right to be. It's a federal crime, and a W.V. state rep is facing a sentence of up to 10 years for it. You then go on to talk about truth and legitimacy. What could be more true or legitimate than the laws of the USA?? Law and order remember?? C'mon it wasn't that long ago, surely you remember Lastly, a blatant lie is not a dissenting voice. Trumps gone, and so are the alternative facts They are allowed to protest in DC, the few went over the line and broke in, I will agree with that. Black Lives Matter/Antifa were able to breaking and loot areas without getting areested, throw crude incendiary divorces at federal buildings etc and officers stood idly by all year. The absolute majority of people were just there to take up space and show their distaste peacefully and then go home as you saw them disperse peacefully. Stop playing your overlords games with the hateful rhetoric. If they were of differing melanin, your stance would be 100 percent the opposite. 1
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said: They are allowed to protest in DC, the few went over the line and broke in, I will agree with that. Black Lives Matter/Antifa were able to breaking and loot areas without getting areested, throw crude incendiary divorces at federal buildings etc and officers stood idly by all year. The absolute majority of people were just there to take up space and show their distaste peacefully and then go home as you saw them disperse peacefully. Stop playing your overlords games with the hateful rhetoric. If they were of differing melanin, your stance would be 100 percent the opposite. Stop with your bull####, how many pipe bombs were disarmed in BLM? How many people died that were not direct effect of Proud Boys terrorism? Sucks that you are just a ham sandwich with no real reason to be angry other than your presidents attempt to control the media with his propaganda has failed. People realized it wasn't fake media... It was a fake Trump. Edited January 9, 2021 by TBBills
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: Stop with your bull####, how many pipe bombs were disarmed in BLM? We still don’t know who planted those first of all, I’ll reserve judgement on those until I hear who it was. There were explosive divices used all summer with Antifa and BLM, you obviously have your head in the sand. Molotov cocktails, ironically for those who understand history, were the most widely used. Edited January 9, 2021 by HamSandwhich 1
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, HamSandwhich said: We still don’t know who planted those first of all, I’ll reserve judgement on those until I hear who it was. There were explosive divides used all summer with Antifa and BLM, you obviously have your head in the sand. Molotov cocktails, ironically for those who understand history, were the most widely used. We do know who planted those... Stop being ignorant tot he situation. You are angry that Trump can no longer use the media as a propaganda tool to destroy democracy. People realized it wasn't fake media... It was a fake Trump. .
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 Trump thought he could control this country and bring in a totalitarian government. He didn't realize that democracy does not allow fear to ruin it. This is why you nutbags are now leaving the Billsfans.com (a fear mongering website that only allows like minded crazies) b.c you do not like that people are happy and confident in the American future once again and it now scares you.
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, TBBills said: We do know who planted those... Stop being ignorant tot he situation. You are angry that Trump can no longer use the media as a propaganda tool to destroy democracy. People realized it wasn't fake media... It was a fake Trump. . Oh who? I didn’t realize they had identified them. Or are you saying we need to assume? We know what that makes you and people who think like you. Again, I could care less about Trump, he’s not what this is about. You’re playing a disingenuous game when you keep trying to paint me as a blind Trump supporter. You know it too, par for the course. The only thing you have is character assasination. it’s about infringement of our speech as American citizens. The silencing of one voice hurts everyone. That’s what this is about. Today, people are all to happy to see people being silenced. This is the canary in the coal mine and people are all to happy to go along for a quick dopamine rush. This is the REAL threat to our country but no one sees it on the left and now some on the right. It’s a very scary time for everyday citizens. Think rationally how far this can go. Now media and government feel emboldened to silence those they disagree with, do you think it will stop with those you deem as Trumpists? Be honest.
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Oh who? I didn’t realize they had identified them. Or are you saying we need to assume? We know what that makes you and people who think like you. Again, I could care less about Trump, he’s not what this is about. You’re playing a disingenuous game when you keep trying to paint me as a blind Trump supporter. You know it too, par for the course. The only thing you have is character assasination. it’s about infringement of our speech as American citizens. The silencing of one voice hurts everyone. That’s what this is about. Today, people are all to happy to see people being silenced. This is the canary in the coal mine and people are all to happy to go along for a quick dopamine rush. This is the REAL threat to our country but no one sees it on the left and now some on the right. It’s a very scary time for everyday citizens. Think rationally how far this can go. Now media and government feel emboldened to silence those they disagree with, do you think it will stop with those you deem as Trumpists? Be honest. You are scared that the things you thought were fake media ended up just being a fake Trump. This is not infringement of speech, you have the freedom to use whatever platform you want but you are responsible for the words you say on those platforms. And when you break those rules you get banned, no different than this site. Billsfans.com doesn't even do that they will just ban you as they do not want people to think differently than them. You don't understand the things you say but it's b.c you have been brainwashed. Edited January 9, 2021 by TBBills
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, TBBills said: Trump thought he could control this country and bring in a totalitarian government. He didn't realize that democracy does not allow fear to ruin it. This is why you nutbags are now leaving the Billsfans.com (a fear mongering website that only allows like minded crazies) b.c you do not like that people are happy and confident in the American future once again and it now scares you. “a fear mongering website that only allows like minded crazies”. Do you not understand the irony of your statement? It’s galling! This is a VERY BAD thing. They will now go underground where we can’t see them, be more polarized, feel more attacked. Ideologies don’t just go away because you silenced them. That’s why mass genocides happen, trying to kill those with different ideologies in hopes of squashing that mindset. The dangerous ideologies will only fester and get worse if you cancel them and they can’t see differing viewpoints that may have swayed them in a different direction. This is dangerous! 2 minutes ago, TBBills said: You are scared that the things you thought were fake media ended up just being a fake Trump. You’re insufferable, I’m not a Trump fan.
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: “a fear mongering website that only allows like minded crazies”. Do you not understand the irony of your statement? It’s galling! This is a VERY BAD thing. They will now go underground where we can’t see them, be more polarized, feel more attacked. Ideologies don’t just go away because you silenced them. That’s why mass genocides happen, trying to kill those with different ideologies in hopes of squashing that mindset. The dangerous ideologies will only fester and get worse if you cancel them and they can’t see differing viewpoints that may have swayed them in a different direction. This is dangerous! They have already gone underground more than a month ago. You are not understanding how responsibility for the things you say works. The FBI is watching them do not worry. Who is this you? I have no control on Bilslfans.com that is DR that bans everyone without allowing differing viewpoints. Go talk to him, you are on the wrong forum. You are angry at the wrong people... Trump is the one who tried to suppress the truth by using the fake media agenda anytime the truth about him would pop up. You have a problem with Trump and DR but don't realize it. Edited January 9, 2021 by TBBills
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, TBBills said: You are scared that the things you thought were fake media ended up just being a fake Trump. This is not infringement of speech, you have the freedom to use whatever platform you want but you are responsible for the words you say on those platforms. And when you break those rules you get banned, no different than this site. Billsfans.com doesn't even do that they will just ban you as they do not want people to think differently than them. You don't understand the things you say but it's b.c you have been brainwashed. Again, never addressing the issue just labeling, “brainwashed”. You embody the problem with this country. I understand private companies, they can do as they choose. However, they are also gate keeping which means they are publishers and should be treated as such. What do you do when the machine is now silencing the competition which they are trying to do? You can’t say they are a private company and then say go to another place and government is over reaching to kill that place too.
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said: Again, never addressing the issue just labeling, “brainwashed”. You embody the problem with this country. I understand private companies, they can do as they choose. However, they are also gate keeping which means they are publishers and should be treated as such. What do you do when the machine is now silencing the competition which they are trying to do? You can’t say they are a private company and then say go to another place and government is over reaching to kill that place too. You need to talk to the people who are the problem, go talk to Trump and DR. If they were silencing the competition they would have done it to Trump long ago, instead they waiting until he created terrorism in our Capitol and finally said enough was enough. They actually waited too long and the damage was done. Edited January 9, 2021 by TBBills
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, TBBills said: They have already gone underground more than a month ago. You are not understanding how responsibility for the things you say works. The FBI is watching them do not worry. Who is this you? I have no control on Bilslfans.com that is DR that bans everyone without allowing differing viewpoints. Go talk to him, you are on the wrong forum. You are angry at the wrong people... Trump is the one who tried to suppress the truth by using the fake media agenda anytime the truth about him would pop up. You have a problem with Trump and DR but don't realize it. No you do not understand. Words are not violence. People cannot be held responsible for other people’s behavior unless directly stated that they do the thing they do. I have a problem with the ones who are actually going after people to silence them. Say what you will about the right, they are about free speech and don’t silence. That’s American! 1 minute ago, TBBills said: You need to talk to the people who are the problem, go talk to Trump and DR. I don’t know why I continue to entertain your thoughts. You just go a round and a round with this labeling stuff.
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: No you do not understand. Words are not violence. People cannot be held responsible for other people’s behavior unless directly stated that they do the thing they do. I have a problem with the ones who are actually going after people to silence them. Say what you will about the right, they are about free speech and don’t silence. That’s American! Word are when theya re used to make people unruly and dangerous. Don't be ignorant to the fact that words are extremely powerful when used in the way Trump does. The Right is not about free speech b.c they do the same thing on there sites... Stop being ignorant. Speech so free but the platforms you use have rules and when you break those rules you are banned. Either create your own platform (they do and ban anyone who is not with them so you are complaining about the wrong shti) or do not break the rules. You have Freedom of speech but you are 100% responsible for the words you use. You ham sandwich of an argument has swiss cheese holes in it. So in your words ISIS was ok for using social media as a way to brainwash people into joining them, and ridding them off social media was the wrong thing to do... Edited January 9, 2021 by TBBills
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: Word are when theya re used to make people unruly and dangerous. Don't be ignorant to the fact that words are extremely powerful when used in the way Trump does. The Right is not about free speech b.c they do the same thing on there sites... Stop being ignorant. Speech so free but the platforms you use have rules and when you break those rules you are banned. Either create your own platform (they do and ban anyone who is not with them so you are complaining about the wrong shti) or do not break the rules. You have Freedom of speech but you are 100% responsible for the words you use. You ham sandwich of an argument has swiss cheese holes in it. You and I are clearly never going to agree. That’s ok, I’m happy to had things out but the ideas are out there and people will decide if they think you’re right or I am. I’ll venture to guess people will align with me more but will be afraid to do so. To those in that situation, don’t be afraid to speak up, we are more numerous than the silencing voices want you to think! Stand up for yourselves and your views. Never use violence or the threat of violence as a cudgel to get your way. Remember who it is that is trying to silence a group and understand that it is completely un- American to paint a group as one thing and use that as a way to silence and attack a group as a monolithic group. That’s the definition of tribalism, the type of tribalism that will destroy this country. Good day to you TB, may you see tbe error of your thinking sooner than later so that you aren’t too late and can’t do anything about it.
TBBills Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: You and I are clearly never going to agree. That’s ok, I’m happy to had things out but the ideas are out there and people will decide if they think you’re right or I am. I’ll venture to guess people will align with me more but will be afraid to do so. To those in that situation, don’t be afraid to speak up, we are more numerous than the silencing voices want you to think! Stand up for yourselves and your views. Never use violence or the threat of violence as a cudgel to get your way. Remember who it is that is trying to silence a group and understand that it is completely un- American to paint a group as one thing and use that as a way to silence and attack a group as a monolithic group. That’s the definition of tribalism, the type of tribalism that will destroy this country. Good day to you TB, may you see tbe error of your thinking sooner than later so that you aren’t too late and can’t do anything about it. You hope people align with you but the fact is propel align with reality. Reality if you are using someone elses platform and they have decided you broke the rules... He did break the rules by inciting violence and terrorism. Tribalism does not fit into this at all. You will most likely never see the error of your thinking but at least the rest of the world agrees with the truth of the matter. When it comes to this you are actually a very small minority. Edited January 9, 2021 by TBBills
SoTier Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffarukus said: did you miss the part about #walkaway being nothing but testimonials. or entire platform being censored? I know EXACTLY what #walkaway is -- and what it purports to be. Apologies to Bill Parcells, but "you are what your actions show you are" no matter whatever bull manure you claim.
Coach Tuesday Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: Watch as the power grab over reaches ala 9/11. Dems and left leaning media will now use this as a blunt force tool to silence those they do not agree with. There were a select few that entered the building but many 10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands more that were there just to show their legitimate concerns in a way that is their right. Instead everyone is painted as insurrectionist, racist, etc. From 1984 to your eyes today, the ministry of truth, will now allow these dissenting voices to be quashed. Not violent voices, just dissenting. Those who caused damage to the capitol and actually stormed, throw the book. Not dealing with what the legitimate concerns (yes they are legitimate) will sadly lead to even worsening tensions, and God forbid, a worse catastrophe than we saw. Instead of making this a moment to come together, we are seeing a further divide of rhetoric from the Democratic side to fuel the fire and increase the obvious power grab. This country may not survive this, and it will be because of the cancelling of dissenting voices. Shame! WAIT A MINUTE. Not that I have the time or care enough to wade through the sewer of your posts during the George Floyd protests but if I did grab a shotgun and flashlight and read back through your drivel, I can almost guarantee you were 100% on the other side of folks’ exercising their rights to air “legitimate concerns” back then. Do you have ANY self-awareness, whatever you are? 1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said: it’s about infringement of our speech as American citizens. The silencing of one voice hurts everyone. Again - I can almost guarantee you were in the “stick to sports” crowd when athletes were kneeling. You kill me man. 2
HamSandwhich Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: WAIT A MINUTE. Not that I have the time or care enough to wade through the sewer of your posts during the George Floyd protests but if I did grab a shotgun and flashlight and read back through your drivel, I can almost guarantee you were 100% on the other side of folks’ exercising their rights to air “legitimate concerns” back then. Do you have ANY self-awareness, whatever you are? Again - I can almost guarantee you were in the “stick to sports” crowd when athletes were kneeling. You kill me man. Please, do find where I said any or that. Simple, again, generalizing with a broad brush. Par for the course. On full display, tribalism.
Backintheday544 Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: WAIT A MINUTE. Not that I have the time or care enough to wade through the sewer of your posts during the George Floyd protests but if I did grab a shotgun and flashlight and read back through your drivel, I can almost guarantee you were 100% on the other side of folks’ exercising their rights to air “legitimate concerns” back then. Do you have ANY self-awareness, whatever you are? Again - I can almost guarantee you were in the “stick to sports” crowd when athletes were kneeling. You kill me man. Welcome to the world of the right. The biggest hypocrites this country has seen in a long time. 1
Coach Tuesday Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Please, do find where I said any or that. Simple, again, generalizing with a broad brush. Par for the course. On full display, tribalism. Am I wrong? If I am, just tell me. You supported the kneeling? The Floyd protests?
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