RochesterLifer Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I will say my worry is tempered by the Cant Touch This video from yesterday. The boys look loose and ready to have a good time. While I agree with you, Tre White REALLY needs to work with Josh. He was showing practice squad level moves.
Juice_32 Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 I think not having fans absolutely helped him. I also think he has grown enough so that when fans do return, even at full capacity, he will be just fine.
Patrick Duffy Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 I doubt it. I think he has gotten smarter and he is better at reading defenses. Also he is comfortable with Daboll and his game plans. Not to mention he has more weapons now than he ever has.
Malazan Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 I think the distinct lack of meteors plowing into the earth has helped Allen this season. I'm concerned that next season, there will a lot more meteors smashing into one bills drive during games that could hinder Allen's production.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 Most definitely did. Road team scoring is up everywhere.
MPL Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 I think you could make the argument that no crowds made it easier for offenses. But, here's a question—if playing with no fans was such a big reason for Allen's success, then why didn't every quarterback in the league take a massive jump in performance, accuracy, decision making, etc? Every QB played in mostly empty stadiums this year. Only few did what Allen did.
Nextmanup Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: I think not having fans absolutely helped him. I also think he has grown enough so that when fans do return, even at full capacity, he will be just fine. Yep, me too. Josh clearly has a panic mode which can get ugly. When he's in it, he'll do anything, and none of it is good. Maybe he has grown out of that, but we haven't seen it in a long time. I think the empty stadiums contributed to this. I don't think it's the sole factor, but it played a part. I would think lack of noise, chaos, confusion, and crowd-infused adrenaline would help almost everyone on the field, for both teams, both sides of the ball. 1
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 Yes. He has stated that he gets too hyped up in front of the fans. This was a known issue last year. It is absurd for people to be giving you a hard time about this.
billsfan1959 Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Yep, me too. Josh clearly has a panic mode which can get ugly. When he's in it, he'll do anything, and none of it is good. Maybe he has grown out of that, but we haven't seen it in a long time. I think the empty stadiums contributed to this. I don't think it's the sole factor, but it played a part. I would think lack of noise, chaos, confusion, and crowd-infused adrenaline would help almost everyone on the field, for both teams, both sides of the ball. Seriously?
Malazan Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Yes. He has stated that he gets too hyped up in front of the fans. This was a known issue last year. It is absurd for people to be giving you a hard time about this. Source.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: Correlation does not equal causality. He played well under pressure at Dallas and Pittsburgh in 2019, in front of hostile crowds on national TV. I'd say his improvement this year was due to another year of experience and off-season training, not the absence of crowds. It's the home stadium fans and the pressure he feels to perform in front of them that is the problem. Away stadiums would not have the same effect. 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Source. I'm sorry, but I don't have it off hand. It was last year after a game or in a midweek presser. It was a discussion point.
Da webster guy Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: Correlation does not equal causality. He played well under pressure at Dallas and Pittsburgh in 2019, in front of hostile crowds on national TV. I'd say his improvement this year was due to another year of experience and off-season training, not the absence of crowds. He didn't play THIS well. Bills crowd at home knows how to manage noise for the offense.
TBBills Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Irv said: I'm wondering if the empty stadiums helped Josh this year. Maybe helped him change plays, see a little better against a solid backdrop. Maybe without the crowd he didn't get too hopped up? Before you ask: Yes. I am working from home and....no, I don't have anything better to think about. And, yes, I do need to get a life. He has played in stadiums that had fans and did finem
Malazan Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's the home stadium fans and the pressure he feels to perform in front of them that is the problem. Away stadiums would not have the same effect. I'm sorry, but I don't have it off hand. It was last year after a game or in a midweek presser. It was a discussion point. It's ok. I'll wait for you to find it. 1
WideNine Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Irv said: I'm wondering if the empty stadiums helped Josh this year. Maybe helped him change plays, see a little better against a solid backdrop. Maybe without the crowd he didn't get too hopped up? Before you ask: Yes. I am working from home and....no, I don't have anything better to think about. And, yes, I do need to get a life. I have actually thought this and it was a good year for him to focus and grow. Allen is a strange throwback in that he really does care about the fans... a lot. I don't think he fakes that. What comes in that same package is probably a dread of letting us and his team down. It would not shock me if that led to games where we saw the panic and hero-ball emerge. He was trying to do too much to carry the team to a victory. He has matured a lot and shown well in prime time games. That and retro music seem to help our QB keep a handle on the "yips".
TH3 Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Irv said: I'm wondering if the empty stadiums helped Josh this year. Maybe helped him change plays, see a little better against a solid backdrop. Maybe without the crowd he didn't get too hopped up? Before you ask: Yes. I am working from home and....no, I don't have anything better to think about. And, yes, I do need to get a life. I think it helped....a lot....perfect seque
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: It's ok. I'll wait for you to find it. Sorry, bud -- not a high priority in my life
Irv Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, TBBills said: He has played in stadiums that had fans and did finem You're funny. 85% empty stadiums.
TBBills Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Irv said: You're funny. 85% empty stadiums. So basically Josh Allen will suck in a full stadium... Ok got it.
Irv Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, TBBills said: So basically Josh Allen will suck in a full stadium... Ok got it. No. But you're still funny.
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