BillStime Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Unfortunately, they don’t suck at it, they’re extremely adept at it. They know with reasonable certainty that a falsely reported story has very little fallout, and that the best way to shape the narrative is the “anonymous source”. Another poster on the board would often scoff at the mere suggestion that anonymous sourcing could be problematic, citing cases just like this: “Multiple sources reported the same thing (thus it’s gotta be true....right??)”. It happened with Russia, Ukraine, the election and the fact is people don’t care of they’re manipulated by the press so long as they get what they need. It was always funny to hear them complain about Trump lies, while getting fed bull#### from iron clad sources like the WaPo, and celebrating the election of honest Joe Biden.
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 11:49 AM, Big Blitz said: Hey remember this episode of "You're Being Played?" The one where Trump threatened the Georgia Election Investigation? Stunning another plot twist: News Outlets Issue Major Corrections After Botching Reports On December Phone Call Between Trump, GA Election Investigator At least two major news outlets have issued corrections following the publication of an audio recording of a December phone call between then-President Donald Trump and a top Georgia elections investigator. The Wall Street Journal published audio last week of a December 23 phone call between Trump and Frances Watson, the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office. The audio recording debunked multiple news reports that attributed fake quotes to Trump. Initial reports by CNN and The Washington Post said that Trump urged Watson to “find the fraud,” telling her she would be a “national hero,” according to archived versions of the stories. The president said neither line, according to the audio recording, and the lines have been cut from both stories. Both outlets cited a single source familiar with the call. It is unknown whether each outlet spoke with the same anonymous source to get the falsified quotes. https://www.dailywire.com/news/news-outlets-issue-major-corrections-after-botching-reports-on-december-phone-call-between-trump-ga-election-investigator Do you really consider this a stunning plot twist? We were all able to actually hear the recording of Trump with Georgia's Secretary of State. If CNN and WaPo changed words shame on them... but it's a far less crime than Trump making those multiple calls to Georgia officials in the first place. Oh... by the way... was this all before or very well after Trump lost the election by a landslide? 3
Big Blitz Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 11 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Oh... by the way... was this all before or very well after Trump lost the election by a landslide? Is that number before or after the fraud? Which happens well before election day and is rampant in California. What's the popular vote margin when you subtract that 3rd world country? Fraud is everywhere. 90 million ballots in the mail? Democrats in charge of making sure "everyone" (dead, alive, 2 or more residencies, multiple times, illegals) votes? Nothing to see here nothing to see move along. Oh and that's all before Google and Silicon Valley target "votes" (manipulate you) with the "correct" messages for 2, 4 years between elections. For Democrats obviously. 1 1
transplantbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Is that number before or after the fraud? Which happens well before election day and is rampant in California. What's the popular vote margin when you subtract that 3rd world country? Fraud is everywhere. 90 million ballots in the mail? Democrats in charge of making sure "everyone" (dead, alive, 2 or more residencies, multiple times, illegals) votes? Nothing to see here nothing to see move along. Oh and that's all before Google and Silicon Valley target "votes" (manipulate you) with the "correct" messages for 2, 4 years between elections. For Democrats obviously. Still believe the Big Lie, huh? 2020 was a free and fair election run by and then scrutinized by Republican officials on State and Federal levels as well as Trump appointed judges on all levels. The very belief you're espousing is what drove a violent, seditious insurrection at the Capital on January 6th. You're on the wrong side of history... the side that's trying to destroy our Country. Wake up and accept that your guy lost because the American people wanted him out of office. It really is that simple. 1 1
Big Blitz Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Still believe the Big Lie, huh? 2020 was a free and fair election run by and then scrutinized by Republican officials on State and Federal levels as well as Trump appointed judges on all levels. Prove to me it was. Audit every vote for me please.
B-Man Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 New Report Shows Significant Election Irregularities in Many States FTA: Here are some other observations from the contrast analyses performed by the team: Massachusetts generated 310,000± more votes for Biden than expected. Massachusetts gained population (165,000±) from 2016 to 2010, so every new registered voter citizen (assuming all new residents were of voting age!) plus about 190,000 previous citizens would have had to vote for Biden – a highly unlikely occurrence. Trump carried Georgia in 2016, yet lost in 2020 while gaining 372,000 votes partly because Biden got 220,000± more votes than expected. Where did those Biden votes come from since the state only gained 425,000 residents from 2016 (not all of voting age)? Trump did better than expected in Ohio and Florida while also improving over 2016 in Louisiana, Alabama, and Utah, each of which counted their absentee ballots BEFORE Election Day (no counting of absentee votes afterward). In other words, whatever transpired during “the Great Pause” in counting “new” Biden votes was precluded from happening in those five states. Is that just a coincidence? New York lost over 304,000 residents from 2016 to 2020, yet the state provided approximately 300,000 more votes for Biden in 2020 than expected. How is that possible when Trump increased his vote totals in 2020 by over 461,000 from 2016? Other Deep Blue states like Illinois, Connecticut, and Hawaii lost population from 2016 to 2020 but increased the vote margin for Biden substantially over Clinton’s numbers in 2016. That cannot be easily explained. Was Biden really that much more popular than Hillary Clinton? New York, New Jersey, and Illinois lost population from 2016 to 2020, but dramatically gained in voter registrations. How likely is that? Michigan and Pennsylvania gained slightly in population from 2016 to 2020, but gained dramatically in registrations. That seems highly unlikely. California gained 700,000± in population from 2016 to 2020, but gained 6,000,000± registered voters. Not bloody likely no matter how big of a voter registration drive there was. Among the top ten positive contrast states (i.e., where Biden did better than Clinton did in 2016), California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, and Washington all had protracted vote counting/tabulation due to laws preventing the count of mail-in before the polls closed. Those states plus Virginia also allowed absentee ballots to be postmarked on Election Day. Three other states (Colorado, Georgia, and New Jersey) extended the deadline for receipt of absentee ballots up to the time the polls closed on Election Day. In short, ALL of the top states where Biden picked up significant votes from 2016 in some way relaxed the voting regulations before the 2020 election. Conclusion. This latest report from the Droz team adds more fuel to the fire regarding “election irregularities” in multiple states during the 2020 presidential election. Be sure to read the whole report here. It is a travesty that forensic audits are not being conducted in many states to validate the results. That the Democrats have fought tooth-and-nail to prevent such audits explains much because if they were certain of Biden’s “overwhelming victory,” then the audits would prove that fact once and for all. Thank God that independent analysts like the Droz team are continuing to dig into the 2020 election data. The American people need to know what happened, and integrity in elections needs to be restored through decisive actions to tighten up state election laws. https://redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2021/03/16/new-report-shows-significant-election-irregularities-in-many-states-n343947 2 1
transplantbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Prove to me it was. Audit every vote for me please. Actually... you're the side that has the proving to do... and you failed time after time after time in the courts and with audits and recounts. Your argument that Trump won this election has been verified multiple times by officials who wanted him to win. Just because you desperately wish there was widespred fraud doesn't mean there was. Be grateful Donald Trump was President... even if it was just for one term and he left office in disgrace. 1 1
Big Blitz Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Actually... you're the side that has the proving to do... No I asked you to tell me why it was legit. See it doesn't matter if I can show you (yes because I have access to all the phony signatures and whatever games they play in inner cities completely dominated by Democrats (any shenanigans in rural Mississippi ever?) The fact that there are 75 million Americans that know this is a full on banana Republic is the problem. They're not wrong. Support the policies that make cheating less likely. Not impossible....just less likely. Libs want to say "increase Democracy! The only way to do so is full vote by mail! And same day registration! And count votes AFTER election day!" My God. Who knew? How did this REPUBLIC ever survive policies like "register 30 days before the election." Or "show ID and if you can't get one the State will issue you your voter ID card." Or my favorite, "actually be a legalized citizen." You call the nonsense in things like the so called "For the People Act" as expanding democracy. No it isn't. It's expanding the opportunities for fraud. Having half the country know the elections are b.s. is far worse then having to actually show up to vote. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No I asked you to tell me why it was legit. See it doesn't matter if I can show you (yes because I have access to all the phony signatures and whatever games they play in inner cities completely dominated by Democrats (any shenanigans in rural Mississippi ever?) The fact that there are 75 million Americans that know this is a full on banana Republic is the problem. They're not wrong. Support the policies that make cheating less likely. Not impossible....just less likely. Libs want to say "increase Democracy! The only way to do so is full vote by mail! And same day registration! And count votes AFTER election day!" My God. Who knew? How did this REPUBLIC ever survive policies like "register 30 days before the election." Or "show ID and if you can't get one the State will issue you your voter ID card." Or my favorite, "actually be a legalized citizen." You call the nonsense in things like the so called "For the People Act" as expanding democracy. No it isn't. It's expanding the opportunities for fraud. Having half the country know the elections are b.s. is far worse then having to actually show up to vote. You probably have some serious issues with our first dozen or 2 Presidents considering the way elections were run from our nation's founding through the 1800s or so. The simple fact is that we've been getting better at elections... not worse. You can cherry pick an irregularity here or a single case of fraud there... but nothing widespread. The "Trump Supporters" case consists of constant and consistent examples of logical fallacies (Sampling bias, Confirmation bias, etc) that belie the actual argument itself. I bet if you dug deep into every single case you believe you have of fraud, you'll find that most aren't actual fraud if you're being objective. I say this not as a guess. I say this because I actually bothered doing it spending time with the lunatics on that other board with the belief (that turned out to be blind hope) that they could see reason and be pulled out of the rabbit hole. Oh... and it's wildly presumptuous of you to think that everyone who voted for Trump believes what you believe. They don't. 1
Big Blitz Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Oh... and it's wildly presumptuous of you to think that everyone who voted for Trump believes what you believe. They don't. Wait a minute. Hold on. I thought they were all complicit in the Great Insurrection of January 6 and should be canceled from society. So were there rally goers there to simply get behind their guy in a de facto 2024 campaign launch on the basis that 2020 was all illegitimate and we got your back, or were they all there for the great coup of 1/6/21? Edited March 18, 2021 by Big Blitz
transplantbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Wait a minute. Hold on. I thought they were all complicit in the Great Insurrection of January 6 and should be canceled from society. So were there rally goers there to simply get behind their guy in a de facto 2024 campaign launch on the basis that 2020 was all illegitimate and we got your back, or were they all there for the great coup of 1/6/21? Who are you talking to? You sound like an idiot.
Tiberius Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Prove to me it was. Audit every vote for me please. LOL, you guys are beyond help
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 2:38 AM, transplantbillsfan said: Do you really consider this a stunning plot twist? We were all able to actually hear the recording of Trump with Georgia's Secretary of State. If CNN and WaPo changed words shame on them... but it's a far less crime than Trump making those multiple calls to Georgia officials in the first place. Oh... by the way... was this all before or very well after Trump lost the election by a landslide? Classic Transpy. The nation’s independently interdependent weathermen just inadvertently heard, reported and confirmed something that never actually occurred and suggested it came to then anonymously. “I CHECKED GUYS—THEY SAID THEY JUST MISUNDERHEARD WHAT DIDN’T HAPPEN. THEY SEEM NICE THOUGH!” 1 1
Unforgiven Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 10 hours ago, B-Man said: New Report Shows Significant Election Irregularities in Many States FTA: Here are some other observations from the contrast analyses performed by the team: Massachusetts generated 310,000± more votes for Biden than expected. Massachusetts gained population (165,000±) from 2016 to 2010, so every new registered voter citizen (assuming all new residents were of voting age!) plus about 190,000 previous citizens would have had to vote for Biden – a highly unlikely occurrence. Trump carried Georgia in 2016, yet lost in 2020 while gaining 372,000 votes partly because Biden got 220,000± more votes than expected. Where did those Biden votes come from since the state only gained 425,000 residents from 2016 (not all of voting age)? Trump did better than expected in Ohio and Florida while also improving over 2016 in Louisiana, Alabama, and Utah, each of which counted their absentee ballots BEFORE Election Day (no counting of absentee votes afterward). In other words, whatever transpired during “the Great Pause” in counting “new” Biden votes was precluded from happening in those five states. Is that just a coincidence? New York lost over 304,000 residents from 2016 to 2020, yet the state provided approximately 300,000 more votes for Biden in 2020 than expected. How is that possible when Trump increased his vote totals in 2020 by over 461,000 from 2016? Other Deep Blue states like Illinois, Connecticut, and Hawaii lost population from 2016 to 2020 but increased the vote margin for Biden substantially over Clinton’s numbers in 2016. That cannot be easily explained. Was Biden really that much more popular than Hillary Clinton? New York, New Jersey, and Illinois lost population from 2016 to 2020, but dramatically gained in voter registrations. How likely is that? Michigan and Pennsylvania gained slightly in population from 2016 to 2020, but gained dramatically in registrations. That seems highly unlikely. California gained 700,000± in population from 2016 to 2020, but gained 6,000,000± registered voters. Not bloody likely no matter how big of a voter registration drive there was. Among the top ten positive contrast states (i.e., where Biden did better than Clinton did in 2016), California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, and Washington all had protracted vote counting/tabulation due to laws preventing the count of mail-in before the polls closed. Those states plus Virginia also allowed absentee ballots to be postmarked on Election Day. Three other states (Colorado, Georgia, and New Jersey) extended the deadline for receipt of absentee ballots up to the time the polls closed on Election Day. In short, ALL of the top states where Biden picked up significant votes from 2016 in some way relaxed the voting regulations before the 2020 election. Conclusion. This latest report from the Droz team adds more fuel to the fire regarding “election irregularities” in multiple states during the 2020 presidential election. Be sure to read the whole report here. It is a travesty that forensic audits are not being conducted in many states to validate the results. That the Democrats have fought tooth-and-nail to prevent such audits explains much because if they were certain of Biden’s “overwhelming victory,” then the audits would prove that fact once and for all. Thank God that independent analysts like the Droz team are continuing to dig into the 2020 election data. The American people need to know what happened, and integrity in elections needs to be restored through decisive actions to tighten up state election laws. https://redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2021/03/16/new-report-shows-significant-election-irregularities-in-many-states-n343947 BASELESS but true 1
Tiberius Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Hopefully Trump people just stop voting and go away. The country would be so much better without them 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Classic Transpy. The nation’s independently interdependent weathermen just inadvertently heard, reported and confirmed something that never actually occurred and suggested it came to then anonymously. “I CHECKED GUYS—THEY SAID THEY JUST MISUNDERHEARD WHAT DIDN’T HAPPEN. THEY SEEM NICE THOUGH!” Its all scripted and rehearsed. Some anonymous source plants a derogatory story in the media. Saying they heard or saw something "illegal" or "unethical" or the mother of all concerns "unconstitutional threat to democracy". The media doesn't bother to do any legwork like verifying sources or following up to confirm anything. So the media runs with it. Then, queue all the outrage. Which has already been prepared as they've been clued in on what story is going to break and when. Everyone starts running around raising concerns about "threats to our democracy". This routine goes on for about a week or two monopolizing the news cycle. All kinds of deep state scumbags express their concern to like-minded press outlets. Here's the fun part. Later, when nobody is paying attention, the said media issues a retraction on the back page or on a 3 AM show as facts trickle out which conflict with the story planted by the anonymous source. The story provided by unnamed sources proves to be BS. But that doesn't matter. The objective is met and the damage is done. Rinse and repeat as necessary. What never happens is this. Never, ever does anyone go back and confront or "out" that anonymous source or question their motivation or bring any kind of charges or exposure to them. The real "crime" isn't what initially happened or what supposedly happened. Its the false story planted in the press to fabricate and manufacture a crisis or issue. That's the real threat to our democracy. A compliant press more than willing to assist political operatives in creating false stories. And to boot having "fact checkers" in place to ensure their false story is not challenged by anyone, heaven forbid, with real facts and knowledge or just the brains and common sense to sniff out all their BS. 1
SoCal Deek Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Hopefully Trump people just stop voting and go away. The country would be so much better without them Huh? Why? On the presumption that your guy won last November is the country now so much better? Really?
Big Blitz Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: LOL, you guys are beyond help This from the people that spent 4 years investigating (a private citizen running for President bc reasons) and impeaching him over Russia Russia Russia collusion that never happened. Your media was also actively calling for the electoral college to not certify Trump. Which was perfectly fine. That is not an insurrection....that is not a Constitutional crisis. This is part of the system we have. Then, on inauguration day, your Brownshirts proceeded to break and destroy things in DC.....but they were only private businesses so it was OK. More Than 200 Arrested in D.C. Protests on Inauguration Day https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/washington-faces-more-anti-trump-protests-after-day-rage-n709946 1
Tiberius Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Big Blitz said: This from the people that spent 4 years investigating (a private citizen running for President bc reasons) and impeaching him over Russia Russia Russia collusion that never happened. Your media was also actively calling for the electoral college to not certify Trump. Which was perfectly fine. That is not an insurrection....that is not a Constitutional crisis. This is part of the system we have. Then, on inauguration day, your Brownshirts proceeded to break and destroy things in DC.....but they were only private businesses so it was OK. More Than 200 Arrested in D.C. Protests on Inauguration Day https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/washington-faces-more-anti-trump-protests-after-day-rage-n709946 Hold on. Trump works with Russia who is trying to screw with our elections. And Dems get angry and investigate. And THAT is the reason you are claiming Trump was cheated in election? That's F'n stupid. I like watching you guys drown in your own toxic stew of lies, idiocy and fantasy, though. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Hold on. Trump works with Russia who is trying to screw with our elections. And Dems get angry and investigate. And THAT is the reason you are claiming Trump was cheated in election? That's F'n stupid. I like watching you guys drown in your own toxic stew of lies, idiocy and fantasy, though. What a fascinating take. The old “Trump worked with PUTIN, subverted the totally fair, open and honest (in 2020) election process and did so in such a deft and clandestine way as to hide it from a group of 14 highly skilled investigators with unlimited resources and unfettered investigator power...” yet the toxic fantasy exists within the Trump crowd? Your new name is Tibsy Newman.
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